So I’m buying a new tanker at last

[Cowabunga]

Abbey - not seen them mentioned in the thread. Tow well and and I find them well made.
Also, there is a company called Shanks which are making them with a really low CoG - not sure how they'd go in very soft ground but then maybe you shouldn't be in there in the first place if you're going to bottom it out.

Was just reading about it there now. It unloads the top (above white line first) then unloads the rear and finally the front bit enclosed in black. Intention is to keep weight on hitch, minimise sloshing around and prevent toppling over on hilly ground.

I'd not seen tha Shanks tanker before and is an interesting machine. Without knowing how it works exactly, it would be better if it unloaded the front somehow before the back lower half. I presume it has a hydraulically, or perhaps mechanically actuated gate between the lower front and rear halves with a half height bulkhead. In which case I would worry about a mechanical failure of the gate as the machine ages and parts corrode and wear inside. Who would risk going inside to release the front lot of slurry if the gate stuck closed?
Perhaps that's not the way it works at all? I hope not.

 

[Xiaomi]

Without knowing how it works exactly, it would be better if it unloaded the front somehow before the back lower half.

The idea to unload it last is to maintain weight on the drawbar. I found a video but the audio is poor.

 

[Cowabunga]

The idea to unload it last is to maintain weight on the drawbar. I found a video but the audio is poor.

Traction is the least of issues on my land with 160+hp on front. Tipping it tits up is always the worry. The baffles that stop the slurry in the front lower half of that tanker must stop surging, which is a significant advantage even counting that the slurry is at the front, where it would be anyway in an ordinary tanker going downhill. Downhill is where the vast majority of overturns occur of course, especially during a turn where slurry runs to one front corner. Surging and hitting the front dome to one side while turning is a sure-fire way of having an accident. That should be eliminated in that Shanks design. An excellent idea and the best I've seen in tanker design for probably 40 years or more.

 

[ollie989898]

I am disappointed to see not all Joskin experiences are as good as mine. I have a 2011 Modulo2 16,000l with a 16m boom doing about 6000m3 pig slurry per year, all drawn from a lagoon, with an average round trip of 5 miles and problems have been few and far between. The original Alliance tyres fell to bits after seven years, the drawbar leaf spring mounting has come lose a couple of times and every few years the float falls off the level pointer. Originally put behind a Fendt 939 but these days a Valtra T174 manages it comfortably on our flat ground.

Can you show us a picture of your machine?

 

[Michael S]

A selection of pictures from this year:



Contrary to the markings on the control box three tractor spools work the filler arm sequencer, turbo pump and rear valve. The tanker spools supplied by power beyond work boom folding, anti drip, linkage and macerators.

 

[deere150]

A selection of pictures from this year:

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Contrary to the markings on the control box three tractor spools work the filler arm sequencer, turbo pump and rear valve. The tanker spools supplied by power beyond work boom folding, anti drip, linkage and macerators.

I've just ordered a tanker with forced steering, do you find the steering ram ever gets in the way ?

 

[Michael S]

I've just ordered a tanker with forced steering, do you find the steering ram ever gets in the way ?

No, not on my tanker. It's the most low cost forced steering Joskin do with the ram below the drawbar so either left or right turn it passes below the drawbar. The main drawback is the lack of height below the steering hitch which is adequate on a Fendt 900 or the Valtra (on 650/75R38s) but on the odd occasion it has been on a Fendt 724 (on 710/70R38s) there is only about 120mm of ground clearance below the steering hitch.

 

[cvx175]

No, not on my tanker. It's the most low cost forced steering Joskin do with the ram below the drawbar so either left or right turn it passes below the drawbar. The main drawback is the lack of height below the steering hitch which is adequate on a Fendt 900 or the Valtra (on 650/75R38s) but on the odd occasion it has been on a Fendt 724 (on 710/70R38s) there is only about 120mm of ground clearance below the steering hitch.

Had that type on my previous tanker, biggest fault I had with it was trying to pick up other trailers, the steering jaw wouldn't let the hitch down low enough. New one has the ram further back with a rod alongside the drawbar to the tractor

 

[deere150]

No, not on my tanker. It's the most low cost forced steering Joskin do with the ram below the drawbar so either left or right turn it passes below the drawbar. The main drawback is the lack of height below the steering hitch which is adequate on a Fendt 900 or the Valtra (on 650/75R38s) but on the odd occasion it has been on a Fendt 724 (on 710/70R38s) there is only about 120mm of ground clearance below the steering hitch.

Mines a Hispec, didn't really give much thought as to how it fits on them [emoji848]

 

[Michael S]

Had that type on my previous tanker, biggest fault I had with it was trying to pick up other trailers, the steering jaw wouldn't let the hitch down low enough. New one has the ram further back with a rod alongside the drawbar to the tractor

I only have the tanker on the ball so it comes off before doing any other job.

 

[Happy hillbily]

The idea to unload it last is to maintain weight on the drawbar. I found a video but the audio is poor.

There was another company who had a similar design back possibly in the 90s, had a two chamber tank, with the rear emptying first and then the front, also had a stepped axle too I think, for some reason Wootton seems to ring a bell, if I remember it was dark blue in colour.

 

[Happy hillbily]

Would love to change my 1300 gallon tanker for a 2000 gallon. My cousin bought a second hand hispec 2300, but it way too high for me here, are the hispec 2000 any lower ?
In my previous life working for my brother in law importing Pichon tankers into the country, used to get comments that they were long and thin, where as most of the Irish tankers were short and fat. We did manage to get Pichon to make 1 short and fat tanker for a customer down in Cornwall, narrow country lanes don't lend themselves to long and thin tankers, but hills don't lend themselves to short and fat either.
I'd have a job to find anything as stable as this one, I'm sure (he says touching wood) I would chicken out before the tanker would go over.

 

[cvx175]

There was another company who had a similar design back possibly in the 90s, had a two chamber tank, with the rear emptying first and then the front, also had a stepped axle too I think, for some reason Wootton seems to ring a bell, if I remember it was dark blue in colour.

The Joskin I have now has a partition to do this empties the rear first then the front, only fault with it is spreading facing downhill you can run out of slurry at the outlet before the level is low enough to let slurry run from the front. Going to add a separate pipe so I can let it run through as and when I need to

 

[Keep_moving]

There was another company who had a similar design back possibly in the 90s, had a two chamber tank, with the rear emptying first and then the front, also had a stepped axle too I think, for some reason Wootton seems to ring a bell, if I remember it was dark blue in colour.

obe are another one for hilly ground: https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/low-slung-tanker-barrels-into-the-ploughing/

 

[Keep_moving]

I see slurryquip have released a new tank as well with the db mounted at the front to keep weight on the drawbar:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2726895554245454

Certainly a massive amount of tanker manufacturers to pick from in the uk and irl now.

 

[Happy hillbily]

Got a reminder today why i have only a 1300 gal tanker behind a 160hp 7t tractor !
Twice i failed

Got the job done in the end though

 

[Thomas5060]

Would love to change my 1300 gallon tanker for a 2000 gallon. My cousin bought a second hand hispec 2300, but it way too high for me here, are the hispec 2000 any lower ?
In my previous life working for my brother in law importing Pichon tankers into the country, used to get comments that they were long and thin, where as most of the Irish tankers were short and fat. We did manage to get Pichon to make 1 short and fat tanker for a customer down in Cornwall, narrow country lanes don't lend themselves to long and thin tankers, but hills don't lend themselves to short and fat either.
I'd have a job to find anything as stable as this one, I'm sure (he says touching wood) I would chicken out before the tanker would go over.
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What about an OBE tanker?

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[wdah/him]

Got a reminder today why i have only a 1300 gal tanker behind a 160hp 7t tractor !
Twice i failedView attachment 914941

Got the job done in the end though
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surly you could reverse up that to get back to the top.

have similar here and cant get up it with a 1300 behind a 5 ton, risky going accross it but still did it twice with the 2250 this year, its a short fat belmac so fits where the 1300 went. yes take a bit of thinking but havent been beat yet and only one brown trouser moment of brakes locked and one front reversing as i went side ways down that field but then has happen with the 1300 too.

 

[Happy hillbily]

Not a chance in ell you would reverse up that field, a tanker your size would be 4t+ heavier than the 8.5t of mine, just won't do it, even going up the track beside that field the Tw15 struggles with traction.
Yes @Thomas5060 one of them would help stability wise, but won't be much better traction wise, also it will be a few years before they will be available on the secondhand market in my price range, also it's shown yesterday, it's better to have a tractor that the boss of a slurry tanker, than the other way around.

 

[Boohoo]

Got a reminder today why i have only a 1300 gal tanker behind a 160hp 7t tractor !
Twice i failedView attachment 914941

Got the job done in the end though
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Ground drive is the answer for places like that but to stay blue you'd be looking at a 60 series or a TM.