So is this the post Brexit Utopia we were promised?

DeeGee

Member
Location
North East Wales
There was a new golden dawn promised by arch Brexiteers if we left the EU.

The reality so far, while we await the belated sunrise, which I’m sure will happen: is partially unharvested fruit and vegetable crops, galloping inflation, a chronic shortage of delivery drivers, chaotic scenes at fuel stations, long delays in importing vital goods and an ever growing number of empty shelves in retail outlets.

Now not all these maladies are a result of us leaving the EU, but some are: and the Utopian idyll we were all promised when Britannia was once again able to rule the waves and create a glorious new era of world trade seems rather slow to materialise. Never mind, apparently all good things come to those who wait, and wait.........
 
Location
Devon
The EU is set on a course that a lot of people aren't happy with.
There is no reasonable likelihood that the direction will change.
The UK voted to change its direction but it will take time to plot the best route and more time to reach the destination.
All the current issues are due to other issues such as covid or would have happened in the future anyway as Eastern European countries 'levelled up', their populations would have been likely to return.
Within 10 years, I think many will accept that leaving was a positive thing in the same way it took many years for it to be accepted that the UK was better off having not joined the Euro.
 
Location
Devon
Lorry drivers are short across the EU and not just in the UK.

The after effects of shutting down the world economy for months on end over Covid is mostly responsible for the current problems!

Pre planned all this including and that includes covid it certainly has been.

Next will be power cuts in Dec/Jan!
 

Grandad Pig

Member
Location
Essex
The EU is set on a course that a lot of people aren't happy with.
There is no reasonable likelihood that the direction will change.
The UK voted to change its direction but it will take time to plot the best route and more time to reach the destination.
All the current issues are due to other issues such as covid or would have happened in the future anyway as Eastern European countries 'levelled up', their populations would have been likely to return.
Within 10 years, I think many will accept that leaving was a positive thing in the same way it took many years for it to be accepted that the UK was better off having not joined the Euro.
Really. Can you point me to the news items showing empty shelves and petrol panic buying in the EU please. I haven’t seen any.
Europe had Covid as did we, but only we had Brexit. Coincidence perhaps? I never accepted that not joining the Euro was a good thing either. Still, the sunlit uplands are just over the horizon, along with the £350 million for the NHS.
 
Location
Devon
Really. Can you point me to the news items showing empty shelves and petrol panic buying in the EU please. I haven’t seen any.
Europe had Covid as did we, but only we had Brexit. Coincidence perhaps? I never accepted that not joining the Euro was a good thing either. Still, the sunlit uplands are just over the horizon, along with the £350 million for the NHS.

We are short of lorry drivers in the UK.
This is due to chronic under investment in the industry, an older demographic of drivers retiring, delays in testing for new drivers and the loss of European drivers.

I actually see this as a positive thing to rebalance the UK economy / workforce and give respect and better conditions to those who do not work in an office.

I was never drawn to 'sunlit uplands'. I was always dismayed at the Gaelic shrug and determination to stick with an EU that very few were happy with.
 

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
There was a new golden dawn promised by arch Brexiteers if we left the EU.

The reality so far, while we await the belated sunrise, which I’m sure will happen: is partially unharvested fruit and vegetable crops, galloping inflation, a chronic shortage of delivery drivers, chaotic scenes at fuel stations, long delays in importing vital goods and an ever growing number of empty shelves in retail outlets.

Now not all these maladies are a result of us leaving the EU, but some are: and the Utopian idyll we were all promised when Britannia was once again able to rule the waves and create a glorious new era of world trade seems rather slow to materialise. Never mind, apparently all good things come to those who wait, and wait.........

Doesn't help when the PM is distracted by getting pregnant on a regular basis.

Now if only her husband was in charge..
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
Lorry drivers are short across the EU and not just in the UK.

The after effects of shutting down the world economy for months on end over Covid is mostly responsible for the current problems!

Pre planned all this including and that includes covid it certainly has been.

Next will be power cuts in Dec/Jan!
Pre planned by our lizard overloads? 🙄. Truth is there have been a woeful lack of pre planning not an excess!!
 

jondear

Member
Location
Devon
There was a new golden dawn promised by arch Brexiteers if we left the EU.

The reality so far, while we await the belated sunrise, which I’m sure will happen: is partially unharvested fruit and vegetable crops, galloping inflation, a chronic shortage of delivery drivers, chaotic scenes at fuel stations, long delays in importing vital goods and an ever growing number of empty shelves in retail outlets.

Now not all these maladies are a result of us leaving the EU, but some are: and the Utopian idyll we were all promised when Britannia was once again able to rule the waves and create a glorious new era of world trade seems rather slow to materialise. Never mind, apparently all good things come to those who wait, and wait.........
It was all a crock of Sh#t!
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
The existing UK nationals who are lorry drivers, veg pickers, cleaners etc. who had their wages stuck at low levels due to eastern European workers coming over here, are probably quite glad to see their wages rising closer to other workers in the economy.

The wage gap between high earners and low earners was too large imho, and about time it was narrowed.
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
We have 15 houses round us and used to see a Tesco van weekly. Now DPD every day, Morrisons, Tesco, Asda, UPS, Next. A fair few of those vans will have ex HGV drivers I suspect
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
RHA and the press responsible for current fuel panic

press responsible for toilet roll panic


furlough responsible for making a lot of people feel they should be allowed to retire and sponsored by the state for life !

covid causing lags on supply, pushing inflation against a background of massive QE

BREXIT …….. utterly irrelevant so far really vs the above
 

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