So is this the post Brexit Utopia we were promised?

Muck Spreader

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Limousin
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farmerm

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Shropshire
quite honestly ive lost faith with all politicans, local council as well,? The retail trade in the UK and in the world as well has changed so much in such a short time, point is, the many many small and large businesses that have gone, paying taxes such as corparation tax, employing people, has been replaced by dare i say the likes of amazon, they have boomed in the last 2 years? there tax that govt gets paid is a small fraction of the many companies that have gone ? Its up to what ever govt to make these new global businesses pay taxes more in proportion to their profits, like i and many thousands of small businesses have to, we have not got the size or opportunity to use the tax loopholes like these do?
One challenge of globalisation is it has become very difficult for governments to impose fair taxation on corporation profits or the individuals who profit from them. The international nature of large corporations allow them and their international shareholders to evade the limited national reach of national taxation. Solving this challenge needs more international agreement rather than the increasing nationalism we are experiencing today! It is clear many of our political elite have decided if you cant beat them you might as well join them!
 

som farmer

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drove past a pub, without stopping, with a large sign out side saying, 'Beer shortage, stop and fill up, while we still have some', positive thinking, which we all should concentrate on doing.
 

bluebell

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Your missing an important point, the sales of goods we buy here from companies large and small, and taxes on profits they make is a massive amount of tax revenue, With the recent change in shopping, i meem how long has Amazon been trading 20 years? the sort of tax revenue the govt must be now losing is enormus? it also quite honestly isnt fair like i said in my earlier post on the many many thosands of smaller businesses, they have a major disadvantage then ?
 

bluebell

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trump said if a company makes products say in mexico and then sells into the USA, based in mexico to get round paying tax, it will be stopped? thats what was making large companies start returning to the USA? These problems are not hard to solve, it just takes the will to do it ?
 

thesilentone

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Not sure if anyone saw the anti-Brexit Turkey farmer on Good Morning Britain ?

He was barking on about how the shortage of EU Labour was affecting the Turkey business, and how there will be half a million less Turkey's reared in the UK, and how these will need imported.

The lady with the opposing view shot him to pieces.

She had searched everywhere for job vacancies at his farm and found none, she had also phoned and asked for a job to be told there were none, she also volunteered to work for free for three days to see what happens on a Turkey farm and was refused.

She had also looked on Companies House website into the Companies financial report to find they only had 8 full time employee's, 5 of which were Directors.

Sadly, a major disservice to Agriculture this morning by what must have been a GMB stooge used to push their anti-Brexit/anti-Government narrative.
 

Muck Spreader

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Limousin
She had also looked on Companies House website into the Companies financial report to find they only had 8 full time employee's, 5 of which were Directors.

Sadly, a major disservice to Agriculture this morning by what must have been a GMB stooge used to push their anti-Brexit/anti-Government narrative.

What's odd about about that in a highly seasonal business? It would be more suspicious if he had hundreds of staff on the books in the summer. :scratchhead:
 

Muck Spreader

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It seem's odd he was barking on about the shortage of Labour but was not advertising for any, or had any vacancies. How does he know there is a shortage ?

Do you not think so ?
I didn't see the report so it's difficult to comment. But slaughtering and processing animals isn't the unskilled work that this government would like you to believe. The Eastern Europeans who come in will generally be skilled operatives with the relative certificates and qualifications that seem to be needed to do anything nowadays.
 

le bon paysan

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Limousin, France
my area in essex, voted strongly in favour of leaving the EU, ? Strange at first glance because down here in the soft southeast close to london we have never ever had it hard like the northern parts of the country? even during the recessions going even back to the 1930s? because of the london effect? But the main reason we voted out, including all my family business was, we were sick and tired of being told what to do by unelected bloated politicians in brussels? That increasingly favoured the minor european states that recently joined? Oh yes if you were spain, greece , poland you benifited greatly by joining, paid for by us the UK?
Un elected , Bloated politician who's NOT acting in your interests.

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le bon paysan

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Limousin, France
I didn't see the report so it's difficult to comment. But slaughtering and processing animals isn't the unskilled work that this government would like you to believe. The Eastern Europeans who come in will generally be skilled operatives with the relative certificates and qualifications that seem to be needed to do anything nowadays.
His part time staff don't start to arrive until 7 weeks before Christmas.
 

Hilly

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the yanks take a lot of pride in producing top quality beef, other than implants, which we cannot use, drugs are controlled. Perhaps there are many things we can learn from their systems, to improve ours. We all claim British beef, is best, how many of us have tried US beef ? They grade theirs on, taste, colour, tederness and marbling, just as we do.
Do we grade on taste colour tenderness and marbling ? I thought we graded on quantity ?
 

thesilentone

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Cumbria
I didn't see the report so it's difficult to comment. But slaughtering and processing animals isn't the unskilled work that this government would like you to believe. The Eastern Europeans who come in will generally be skilled operatives with the relative certificates and qualifications that seem to be needed to do anything nowadays.

You can view it here:
 

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