So it starts......

[caveman]

Every man and state for themselves.
Veradker has threatened to stop the UK using Irish airports and airspace if the UK stop him nicking UK fish.
Tosser.
He's got two helicopters and a 1960's plane of some sort that's probably got perished tyres.
Good luck with that pal.
Bring it on, despite it contravening international agreements.
It'll be a long way round for Irish air traffic to get the trough gobblers round to clock on.
Bet May won't find the backbone to call him out though.

 

[JimAndy]

Veradker has threatened any thing. Brexit is brexit, the British people have VOTED to leave all thing EU this includes the agreements to use each others airspace, if you want to Blame anyone Blame those freckers in Westminster who have failed so far to make any of the most basic agreements like using airspace, sharing intel ect ect.

as for Bring it on, how frecking arrogant are you to think that just because your British you can go sh!t were ever you want, the days of the Empire are long gone my friend. No longer can you park a few battleships on the coast of a country till you get your way

 

[caveman]

International air agreements way precede the EU my friend.

 

[baabaa]

if you had listened to the whingeing of leprecon air last couple of years,
come brexit day if the planes didnt fall out of the sky there would certainly be none flying!
then they go and announce this for 2019
https://www.independent.co.uk/trave...-easyjet-cheap-flights-stansted-a8396956.html

 

[JimAndy]

they were superseded by the EU, all the different agreements between the different countries were brought under the one EU wide agreement

 

[caveman]

For EU members maybe.
But the UK will be back in the real world where international rules apply..... even to the EU.

 

[JimAndy]

if you had listened to the whingeing of leprecon air last couple of years,
come brexit day if the planes didnt fall out of the sky there would certainly be none flying!
then they go and announce this for 2019
https://www.independent.co.uk/trave...-easyjet-cheap-flights-stansted-a8396956.html

you confusing the actions of a company with that of a government, ryanair doesn't make International air agreements, government do

 

[caveman]

if you had listened to the whingeing of leprecon air last couple of years,
come brexit day if the planes didnt fall out of the sky there would certainly be none flying!
then they go and announce this for 2019
https://www.independent.co.uk/trave...-easyjet-cheap-flights-stansted-a8396956.html

Business will bypass government, apart from paying dues, where profit is concerned.

 

[JimAndy]

For EU members maybe.
But the UK will be back in the real world where inter national rules apply..... even to the EU.

yes and as such it will have to make a new agreement with the EU about using EU airspace. it not the first time this has been brought up, i seem to remember the USA saying something similar about using USA airspace, that the UK need to make a new agreement with the USA, as the current agreement is between the EU and the USA .

Truthfully it no big deal we all know that if there isn't a new airspace agreement made, then some fudge will be made to allow the use of the each other airspace until such time as a new agreement can be made

 

[arcobob]

they were superseded by the EU, all the different agreements between the different countries were brought under the one EU wide agreement

Are you sure? I have flown all over the world in recent years and don`t remember too many no fly zones other than war zones. So you think that fortress EU is going to stuff its tourist industry and all air freight to and from abroad. This is another piece of remoaner scare mongering.

 

[caveman]

yes and as such it will have to make a new agreement with the EU about using EU airspace. it not the first time this has been brought up, i seem to remember the USA saying something similar about using USA airspace, that the UK need to make a new agreement with the USA, as the current agreement is between the EU and the USA .

Truthfully it no big deal we all know that if there isn't a new airspace agreement made, then some fudge will be made to allow the use of the each other airspace until such time as a new agreement can be made

Whatever.
But you ain't having our fish unless you pay heavy for it. Else it can stay in the bank untill we rebuild or hire a fishing fleet for our own profit.
(Not if I had my way anyways).

 

[JimAndy]

Are you sure? I have flown all over the world in recent years and don`t remember too many no fly zones other than war zones. So you think that fortress EU is going to stuff its tourist industry and all air freight to and from abroad. This is another piece of remoaner scare mongering.

so lets see you really think that just because your british you can hope on a plane and fly were you want, tell you what, since Brexiters seem to want NO deals lets just wait till we leave and see how far a UK plane get round the world without breaking any other countries sovereign airspace

 

[JimAndy]

But you ain't having our fish unless you pay heavy for it. Else it can stay in the bank untill we rebuild or hire a fishing fleet for our own profit.
(Not if I had my way anyways).

100% agree British water should be for British fishermen, it always pee'd me off that boats were tied up in Kilkeel (main fishing port in N.I) while some Spanish git was out fishing our waters

 

[arcobob]

100% agree British water should be for British fishermen, it always pee'd me off that boats were tied up in Kilkeel (main fishing port in N.I) while some Spanish git was out fishing our waters

Cherry picking now then. The way so called negotiations are going not much will change. Fishing will be sacrificed for financial services concessions.

 

[JimAndy]

how am i cherry picking, i voted to leave but on like many here i knew that the EU was more that the single market and custom union. there a whole host of thing that the EU covers. in theory once we leave you not be able to make a phone call to the EU cause we be leaving the telecoms standards, but guess what in RL you will and somewhere down the line a new agreement will be made and no one will notice, it the same with air space some fudge will be made to to fly and some were down the line a new agreement will be made.

Fishing will be sacrificed for financial services concessions.

not just fishing, Farming as well

 

[Ashtree]

No great fan of Leo, but if the British leadership was even half as well briefed as him about the detail, was half as clear as him as to their negotiating position as he is about his, and was half as clued in to the back office workings of Brussels, then I think there would already be a UK EU trade agreement and Brexit would be off the front pages.
Sadly though, your lot just can’t get behind any negotiating position whatsoever!!!

By the way, one of the best differences between UK and Ireland, is in the rabid tabloid media world.
That particular dung pile style of newspaper and news reporting never got off the ground over here.

 

[Muck Spreader]

Cherry picking now then. The way so called negotiations are going not much will change. Fishing will be sacrificed for financial services concessions.

They had better get their fingers out then, as most financial institutions are already on the move. But as BJ says fu*k business.

 

[caveman]

Hmmmm.
My point was.
After a few recent announcements. I can see various states breaking ranks and jumping up and down on their own.

 

[Honest john]

No great fan of Leo, but if the British leadership was even half as well briefed as him about the detail, was half as clear as him as to their negotiating position as he is about his, and was half as clued in to the back office workings of Brussels, then I think there would already be a UK EU trade agreement and Brexit would be off the front pages.
Sadly though, your lot just can’t get behind any negotiating position whatsoever!!!

By the way, one of the best differences between UK and Ireland, is in the rabid tabloid media world.
That particular dung pile style of newspaper and news reporting never got off the ground over here.

I understand Leo is well liked in ROI. But he can't win a Tit for Tat with U.K. Or USA.

This is all part of a plan to get the British voter to start begging for a 2nd referendum IMO.

 

[wanton dwarf]

I understand Leo is well liked in ROI. But he can't win a Tit for Tat with U.K. Or USA.

This is all part of a plan to get the British voter to start begging for a 2nd referendum IMO.

Project fear.

2 years plus of BBC propaganda against 52% of the population.