So what happened

[Drillman]

Anything can be made possible using a Dino.

However it’s the whole scenario that’s isn’t right.

I irc it was a load of 24 ton gross pulled 90 mile round trip Averaging 29mpg.

Not possible because with 2019 technology there just isn’t enough energy in a gallon of fuel to achieve such figures. (There’s no proof either. From the claimant or Fendt or any other official body) Especially considering traffic and the total absence of aerodynamics, cleated tyres etc which work against fuel economy.



Divide 29mpg by 4.5 effectively replacing gallons with litres and the figures are a lot more realistic. From that point on it’s pretty obvious where the failings of the use of the calculator come into play.

Fendt tractor manages 839 miles on one tank of biodiesel - Farmers Weekly

A Derbyshire tractor dealer which set out to drive a 360hp Fendt 936 from Lands End to John O’ Groats in 24 hours on a single tank of

www.fwi.co.uk

Yes it’s only a 936 but works out at 5.746mpg. Although I expect this one doesn’t have the special flux capacitor fitted

However if you multiply the 5.746 by 4.5 you get 25.857mpg. (gallon to litre conversion) it becomes much closer to the mythical 29mpg. Which I think helps explain my thinking above.

 

[Wellytrack]

Put a engine on a Dyno at 1400 rpms then 1000rpms and you will find you are so wrong read about the bigger fendt before you open you month and you can see were I am coming from

Litres per hour is what matters, not the revs. What is the fuel use of a 390hp tractor laden with 24 tons likely to be per hour?

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Swivel ok if the tractor has clevis fitted and using a pin. But the swivel is disastrous on a hook if you are able to get the tractor and trailer at nearly 90 degrees angles to each other.

I hadn't thought it that far through, makes perfect sense. Cheers.

Do contractors not use a clevis drawbar for this type of work? What about safety chains?

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Anything can be made possible using a Dino.

However it’s the whole scenario that’s isn’t right.

I irc it was a load of 24 ton gross pulled 90 mile round trip Averaging 29mpg.

Not possible because with 2019 technology there just isn’t enough energy in a gallon of fuel to achieve such figures. (There’s no proof either. From the claimant or Fendt or any other official body) Especially considering traffic and the total absence of aerodynamics, cleated tyres etc which work against fuel economy.



Divide 29mpg by 4.5 effectively replacing gallons with litres and the figures are a lot more realistic. From that point on it’s pretty obvious where the failings of the use of the calculator come into play.

Fendt tractor manages 839 miles on one tank of biodiesel - Farmers Weekly

A Derbyshire tractor dealer which set out to drive a 360hp Fendt 936 from Lands End to John O’ Groats in 24 hours on a single tank of

www.fwi.co.uk

Yes it’s only a 936 but works out at 5.746mpg. Although I expect this one doesn’t have the special flux capacitor fitted

However if you multiply the 5.746 by 4.5 you get 25.857mpg. (gallon to litre conversion) it becomes much closer to the mythical 29mpg. Which I think helps explain my thinking above.

2 km per litre then, same as our 530 Isuzus, but they're double the laden weight.

Also, they're designed for the road

So, what happened here, then?

 

[Mouser]

2 km per litre then, same as our 530 Isuzus, but they're double the laden weight.

Also, they're designed for the road View attachment 824562
So, what happened here, then?

Thon coo was leading the revolution at animal farm, then realised that she couldn't drive while making her escape so crashed killing herself and everyone onboard

 

[roscoe erf]

2 km per litre then, same as our 530 Isuzus, but they're double the laden weight.

Also, they're designed for the road View attachment 824562
So, what happened here, then?

The cow hot wired and stole the lorry police gave chase cow lost it on the bend resulting in a tragic accident

 

[PaulNix]

Heavy night, cow passed out walking home and lorry gave up trying to get the cow to wake up and thought he'd have a quick shut eye while the world was spinning so fast.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Yeah, bit of a sad end to that one, as two cows had to be shot due to injuries sustained.
E-Road showed that the vehicle was travelling at 61kmh (40mph) when she went over, so speed wasn't the cause..
No cellphone reception, so the driver wasn't on Snapchat....
Happened at 9.15am so it wasn't a fatigued or drunk driver, either.... only 12 years behind the wheel but 10 of those have been on stock wagons.

The actual reason was the road itself, lack of metalling and the steers found clay and sucked the whole truck across, just not quite enough road to gather it back up and it went through the fence and fell over.

Bugger.

 

[Mouser]

Yeah, bit of a sad end to that one, as two cows had to be shot due to injuries sustained.
E-Road showed that the vehicle was travelling at 61kmh (40mph) when she went over, so speed wasn't the cause..
No cellphone reception, so the driver wasn't on Snapchat....
Happened at 9.15am so it wasn't a fatigued or drunk driver, either.... only 12 years behind the wheel but 10 of those have been on stock wagons.

The actual reason was the road itself, lack of metalling and the steers found clay and sucked the whole truck across, just not quite enough road to gather it back up and it went through the fence and fell over.

Bugger.

That sounds a bit true for this thread, go and start your own please

 

[Kiwi Pete]

 

[Bloders]

Put a engine on a Dyno at 1400 rpms then 1000rpms and you will find you are so wrong read about the bigger fendt before you open you month and you can see were I am coming from

Before you call me this and that read about a fendt 1000 range and what does it do on the road with the engine rpms and we all know low rpms can not burn fuel

of course low rpms can burn lots of fuel. Take it to the extreme and look at ship engines. They are thousands of hp and run at less than 100 rpm.

 

[Deerefarmer]

I'm sticking my neck out here, I know, but I think some of you need to lay off on speedstar
We visited in person once and we discussed the matter at hand. All I will say is he is doing a great job of taking flak.

 

[Deerefarmer]

of course low rpms can burn lots of fuel. Take it to the extreme and look at ship engines. They are thousands of hp and run at less than 100 rpm.

Err they are designed to make full power at low rpms.
Tractor engine not so much

 

[holywell farmer]

Blimey some off you lot should be police road traffic collision officers

 

[holywell farmer]

I believe this is the original thread.

JCB 3220 v 50 km

which is more effecient on fuel , a fastrack or a 50 km tractor both of the same power. Doing long distance road work.

thefarmingforum.co.uk

Got very nasty that thread

 

[Mouser]

I'm sticking my neck out here, I know, but I think some of you need to lay off on speedstar
We visited in person once and we discussed the matter at hand. All I will say is he is doing a great job of taking flak.

You appear to be hinting towards it actually being a true story,
I know he keeps changing it slightly but the original is still about 20mpg from being a true story.

 

[Beowulf]

I'm sticking my neck out here, I know, but I think some of you need to lay off on speedstar
We visited in person once and we discussed the matter at hand. All I will say is he is doing a great job of taking flak.

That's the way of the internet forum though. Someone sticks their head above the firing line, many participants take a cheap shot in the hope of achieving glory. It doesn't actually matter who is right or wrong, just so long as the participants get their moment of righteousness.

It's basically the playground scuffle played out via the medium of the anonymous internet, with neither party willing to break cover to decide who's dad is harder.

 

[Frankzy]

Put a engine on a Dyno at 1400 rpms then 1000rpms and you will find you are so wrong read about the bigger fendt before you open you month and you can see were I am coming from

Alright, here's the dyno test dlg performed on a 2015 939 S4...

As you can see for yourself by looking at the "specific fuel consumption" graph the engine is just as relatively thirsty at 1000 rpm as it is at 1400.

The one who didn't bother to check before opening their mouth was you back when you originally made the claim because the numbers you are quoting just aren't physically possible, I'd even make a bet that there simply isn't enough energy in diesel even if the engine was 100% efficient...

 

[Deerefarmer]

That's the way of the internet forum though. Someone sticks their head above the firing line, many participants take a cheap shot in the hope of achieving glory. It doesn't actually matter who is right or wrong, just so long as the participants get their moment of righteousness.

It's basically the playground scuffle played out via the medium of the anonymous internet, with neither party willing to break cover to decide who's dad is harder.

Point taken.
Just calling it as I see it that's all

 

[Drillman]

I'm sticking my neck out here, I know, but I think some of you need to lay off on speedstar
We visited in person once and we discussed the matter at hand. All I will say is he is doing a great job of taking flak.

All it needs is some proof then he will the one saying YaBoo sucks to you lot...

Without it and an attitude that gets somewhat shirty and evasive when challenged or pushed on the subject along with evidence provided by several people to prove otherwise. This one will run and run I’m afraid.

At end of the day if it is proved correct every haulier in the country will be after the tech needed to achieve it.