So what if the fert price doesn't stabilise by August

[czechmate]

Beans

I don’t know about you but I only manage one harvest per year, so yea, it’s good if they last 52 weeks

 

[SilliamWhale]

Who#s going to buy tour beans ? appears to be a popular crop this year

You can get a contract over wheat for next year.

 

[Lowland1]

I don’t know about you but I only manage one harvest per year, so yea, it’s good if they last 52 weeks

We harvest beans six days a week 52 weeks a year and they’re French beans too. You must be doing something wrong.

 

[egbert]

he uses 4cwt total for wheat?

'corn'....we didn't get as far as specifying which.
(and since we were gas axing holes in my telehandler boom, i didn't really want to distract him overly)

He's from hellish strong red soil, so I'd anticipate their not having to chuck as many granules on as some.

 

[glasshouse]

The problem is the weather risk element. Back in the UK we were always at about 9 tonnes. Always applied imputs accordingly. Then 2012 comes along, same inputs but fusarium comes along and you end up with 6.5 tonnes of crap. Blows the figures out the water and basically you would be better off with low input, low output and low risk system

You were lucky to get 6.5t/ha in 2012
4.5t/ha was the go round here

 

[ajd132]

No second wheat. We’ve pushed extra wheat this year because we bought fert cheap, so got it on fields that should really have been a spring crop for BG, so we have kind of set up ourselves up well if fert prices stay high. Maybe a few beans but not much. some osr as usual but not loads.
more malting barley spring/winter and spring oats. Cheap and easy to grow, profitable. Grain storage not a worry for malting barley and new oat mill going up on one of our CS sites Which should be good.

 

[ollie989898]

Around here if fertiliser prices don't sort themselves I predict a lot of maize being grown on land that would normally have had a cereal crop.

 

[czechmate]

Around here if fertiliser prices don't sort themselves I predict a lot of maize being grown on land that would normally have had a cereal crop.

I thought maize was pretty hungry

 

[som farmer]

Around here if fertiliser prices don't sort themselves I predict a lot of maize being grown on land that would normally have had a cereal crop.

thought you were going to say, with only sh1t under it.
how much N would you put on a 1st w wheat, on very strong ground, that hasn't been in corn, for decades, been in a rye followed by maize, for 3 years, and had about 3in of slurry, in that time, it's looking good now.

 

[bobk]

I thought maize was pretty hungry

@silverfox doesn't use ant bagged fert on maize iirc

 

[Lowland1]

@silverfox doesn't use ant bagged fert on maize iirc

I don’t on mine. Following my French Beans.

 

[DRC]

@silverfox doesn't use ant bagged fert on maize iirc

Only the 50kgs of DAP as a starter fertiliser, but nothing after, other than the muck under it .

 

[bobk]

Only the 50kgs of DAP as a starter fertiliser, but nothing after, other than the muck under it .

Within NVZ rules of course

 

[DRC]

Within NVZ rules of course

Of course .

 

[DRC]

For the first time in over 20 years, I’m not growing any maize this year, so going to have to grow spring barley with just manure . How much I dare put under it , is the question . Might be best to store some of the solid muck for next years autumn crops . Or sell some ?

 

[Wombat]

For the first time in over 20 years, I’m not growing any maize this year, so going to have to grow spring barley with just manure . How much I dare put under it , is the question . Might be best to store some of the solid muck for next years autumn crops . Or sell some ?

We put about the maximum we could of cattle manure under some spring barley last year and you couldn;t tell the difference where we ran out accross the field in terms of yield or it going down.

 

[bobk]

For the first time in over 20 years, I’m not growing any maize this year, so going to have to grow spring barley with just manure . How much I dare put under it , is the question . Might be best to store some of the solid muck for next years autumn crops . Or sell some ?

Malting barley , mega money

 

[DRC]

We put about the maximum we could of cattle manure under some spring barley last year and you couldn;t tell the difference where we ran out accross the field in terms of yield or it going down.

What else did it get

 

[Wombat]

What else did it get

a chunk of AN as well, the useable N of manure is so low I topped it up as per our recommendation