So which year do you chose for combine capacity?

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
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Fen Edge
A few random thoughts;
I have been involved in various peoples harvests in Cambs and they have all taken longer than 10 days but have used a variety of machines, mostly quite old and with limited (mostly none) drying facilities. Generally though these machines have been reliable and the weather in Cambs is often kinder and earlier than many of you on here. I know of a 6 year old lexion that has cut over 2000 acres a year on the same farm from new with very little cutting above 18%. Here grain handling can be a limit on output. Also an older 5 walker machine is in use here where a 6 walker would be better value but the 5 walker is much easier for the many road movements we do. Older 6 walker machines especially can be ridiculously wide on the road (1188 4.3m from memory) If I was ring fenced I would have bought bigger. Newer combines with their electronics scare me but this hasn't stopped some neighbours who have lexions cutting well under 1000 acres.
 
No, not fact!!

I was on farms with CR's from 2008 - 2015, 9080's at first, a 9090 and latterly a 9.90, not once in those years, which included 2008 and 2012, did any of those combines cut less than 2000 acres.

My 6 Walker CX cuts 1600 acres a year, the last one cut an average of nearly 1800 acres a year in the 10 seasons it was on farm from '09 to '18, are you a saying a 780 Lexion can only manage another 200 acres a year more???

And I don't have any super hero pants or cut everything over 25%, it's just what's achievable in this part of the world.

Yes they can cut it because you can still be cutting in October but what I am saying is at the expense of crop quality with regards to wheat and barley and potential crop loss with osr.
 

T Hectares

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Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
Yes they can cut it because you can still be cutting in October but what I am saying is at the expense of crop quality with regards to wheat and barley and potential crop loss with osr.
Well, all I can say is we cut those acreages without cutting in October!!
We would also would hire in extra capacity when needed if crop quality was at jeopardy and still cut comfortably more than 2000 acres, but like I said, it's perfectly possible in this part of the world...
 
Well, all I can say is we cut those acreages without cutting in October!!
We would also would hire in extra capacity when needed if crop quality was at jeopardy and still cut comfortably more than 2000 acres, but like I said, it's perfectly possible in this part of the world...

So you agree then because hiring in to protect quality means your combine isn’t big enough in that year and what I’m saying is that in the last 11 seasons we’ve had 4 poor harvests weather wise.

I know people with 600hp 35ft monsters cutting 1500 ac per year who have already this year lost milling quality because they can’t cut the stuff.
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
What's wrong with hiring in? If it's 1 year in 4 then that's cheaper combining for 3 years. Even an 800hp 45 ft monster is useless when it rains constantly. All the investment in the world won't stop it raining.
 

T Hectares

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Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
So you agree then because hiring in to protect quality means your combine isn’t big enough in that year and what I’m saying is that in the last 11 seasons we’ve had 4 poor harvests weather wise.

I know people with 600hp 35ft monsters cutting 1500 ac per year who have already this year lost milling quality because they can’t cut the stuff.
I think we are at cross purposes here, we used to make it work as there was a 10 day spread of maturity across the farms and around 35% of the cereal crops were quality ones, in that situation it was relatively easy to keep up with the quality crops as they matured and feed crops would get left, I think you are assuming a much higher percentage of quality crops??
If you are then that is an entirely different discussion of risk v premiums than was originally stated.

And as for your 1500acre example, no amount of capacity can alter the course of nature and change the weather, a sh!t wet summer is what it is !!!
 
I think we are at cross purposes here, we used to make it work as there was a 10 day spread of maturity across the farms and around 35% of the cereal crops were quality ones, in that situation it was relatively easy to keep up with the quality crops as they matured and feed crops would get left, I think you are assuming a much higher percentage of quality crops??
If you are then that is an entirely different discussion of risk v premiums than was originally stated.

And as for your 1500acre example, no amount of capacity can alter the course of nature and change the weather, a sh!t wet summer is what it is !!!

Yep so as I said initially there’s no machine capable of more than 2000ac per year when talking about ‘milling’ and ‘malting’ products and then factoring in osr loss etc. So as Clive said you buy the biggest you can afford and don’t even bother thinking about acres to cut. 35ft 600hp on 500ac is fine if you can afford it.
 
Why would anyone on big acreage try and grow/aim to harvest 100% milling/malting? You can guarantee some will spoil if it's all ready at the same time.

Because you can grow as ‘feeds’. Ontime harvesting is where quality comes from to a point so if your chasing your arse you miss the premiums.
 

Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
Because you can grow as ‘feeds’. Ontime harvesting is where quality comes from to a point so if your chasing your arse you miss the premiums.

Expecting to be able to harvest 100% of your wheats as milling year in year out over several thousand acres seems crazy to me.

Winter/spring crop is to spread risk and workload
Crop rotation likewise
Milling/feed should be treated the same imo.

Great if you can get it all milling, but expecting to do so it a whole different ball game.
 

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