so who was it

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
There is no question the law is being treated as a joke. The intention of the law is quite plain that a 15 miles radius was the intended distance a tractor should travel from base.
I confess I have more than a few times exceeded this but some people are taking the P. The law is not clear and there is little doubt that it is full of holes which people ar driving a coach and horses through.
The end result will be no red diesel and full MOT for agricultural trailers
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
There is no question the law is being treated as a joke. The intention of the law is quite plain that a 15 miles radius was the intended distance a tractor should travel from base.
I confess I have more than a few times exceeded this but some people are taking the P. The law is not clear and there is little doubt that it is full of holes which people ar driving a coach and horses through.
The end result will be no red diesel and full MOT for agricultural trailers
If that was the intention then that would be the law, truth is its not either
 

icanshootwell

Member
Location
Ross-on-wye
There is no question the law is being treated as a joke. The intention of the law is quite plain that a 15 miles radius was the intended distance a tractor should travel from base.
I confess I have more than a few times exceeded this but some people are taking the P. The law is not clear and there is little doubt that it is full of holes which people ar driving a coach and horses through.
The end result will be no red diesel and full MOT for agricultural trailers
So what is worse,
1. Driving more than 15 miles with red in the tank because changing to white would be a faff for a 1 off jurney.
2. Having a pee up 100 strong in lock down.
IMO they probably will do away with red, be worked like vat system and claim the difference back.
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
My grandpa drove 500km each way to fetch a seaworthy wood boat from Sweden in his International 956XL. But he has no perception of time since he had a brain stroke in late 80's. :censored:
I seem to remember a story from the 1950’s when some farmer here took his family on a trip across Europe in a David Brown 30 and a transport box, think they got to Jugoslavia 😂
 

Fendt516profi

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
There is no question the law is being treated as a joke. The intention of the law is quite plain that a 15 miles radius was the intended distance a tractor should travel from base.
I confess I have more than a few times exceeded this but some people are taking the P. The law is not clear and there is little doubt that it is full of holes which people ar driving a coach and horses through.
The end result will be no red diesel and full MOT for agricultural trailers
What's the difference between more than a few times and taking the pee? Exactly how many times can you exceed before you start taking pee
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
What's the difference between more than a few times and taking the pee? Exactly how many times can you exceed before you start taking pee
I did not set the law, nor would I want to dictate how far is reasonable. Used to have neighbours who in the 1970’s used to have 1 silage gang working from Peterborough to the Isle of wight.
I think hauling crop as opposed to moving tackle should be a different issue too.
I think these sorts of issues will be a driver to getting MOTs red diesel etc, is it 6 weekly checks on HGVs ? Imposed across the industry.
The rise of the AD and associated maize hauling will be the nail in the coffin, it is bad enough for the potato boys to be moving crop off fields dragging huge amounts of mud on to roads, but this has to be done to feed the nation, I dont think that will work for the silage gangs doing the same. These pictures of straw wagons stuck under bridges are the straw which will break the camels back, if we are not lucky
 

Simon Chiles

DD Moderator
IMO they probably will do away with red, be worked like vat system and claim the difference back.
I think you’re dreaming if you think that when Red goes you’ll be able to claim back the tax. The argument will be that farmers need to cut their carbon footprint and a tax on fuel will concentrate their minds. It’ll have the benefit of raising quite a bit of revenue without upsetting too many voters.
 

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
Farmer who was here before us rented land near Sailsbury Plain to grow onions, took all tackle there and carted onions back here with Ford tractors and 12 tonne trailers, did it for two years, 300 mile round trip
thats a 12 hour trip (based on average of 25mph which is probably on the high side.) How was that even practical let alone viable!
 

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