Soil test for health

martian

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N Herts
That’s not true about the CaCO3 unless your lab is doing it wrong

http://www.nrm.uk.com/files/documen...tter_content_of_soils_by_Loss_on_Ignition.pdf
Very interesting
Thanks. Still the laborious way! Never mind.
Trying to bring this thread back from the nether regions...worm counting is fun and fascinating. You learn a lot from just spending time sifting through the soil. You won't have many worms where they're aren't microbes and fungi for them to eat, so for my money worm numbers are a cheap and incredibly cheerful way of measuring soil health. You could probably train a child to do this if your conscience allows you to exploit children, but it's a good enough way for anyone managing land to spend their time.
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
This thread took an unexpected turn.

Continuing this theme... I saw lots of large worms copulating on the surface of a field sown with wheat after osr this morning as I was out slug checking (very few found). Unfortunately by the time I'd seen them their coitus was interruptus and they whizzed back underground before I had a chance to get a picture. Worm porn - what the hell am I turning into? :confused:
 

cows r us

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Buckinghamshire
Continuing this theme... I saw lots of large worms copulating on the surface of a field sown with wheat after osr this morning as I was out slug checking (very few found). Unfortunately by the time I'd seen them their coitus was interruptus and they whizzed back underground before I had a chance to get a picture. Worm porn - what the hell am I turning into? :confused:
We area seeing loads already. We've only just begun our quest into direct drilling as well. We are however applying a decent amount of organic material back into the soil though which I imagine puts us at a huge advantage.it will be interesting to see how good our soils get when using cover crops as well.
 

ZXR17

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South Dorset
They were fairly ' busy ' on fresh wheat seed beds this morning here . It must have been the 17 mm of rain that we had over the weekend , the first proper rain for a while , that had got them excited.
 

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juke

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DURHAM
Continuing this theme... I saw lots of large worms copulating on the surface of a field sown with wheat after osr this morning as I was out slug checking (very few found). Unfortunately by the time I'd seen them their coitus was interruptus and they whizzed back underground before I had a chance to get a picture. Worm porn - what the hell am I turning into? :confused:

I know someone else that's into there worm porn took great delight in phoning me to tell me all about it as he was watching , this could be a new form of dogging
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
That’s not true about the CaCO3 unless your lab is doing it wrong

http://www.nrm.uk.com/files/documen...tter_content_of_soils_by_Loss_on_Ignition.pdf

Point taken and thanks for the link. Why would calcareous soils show 1-2% OM more than non calcareous ones? I've yet to get a satisfactory answer to that. The lower temperatures required to prevent reduction of CaCO3 would make the tests too long for labs to do therefore making them less popular due to increased cost. It's trying to find a consistent average & I still think LOI is too crude a method.

What method do you use?
 

Samcowman

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Cornwall
How many worms are you finding your spade dept has increased by. This week I went for a walk around the field out the back with a spade. It’s been min till cultivates and ploughed pretty much on alternate years for 10 years plus. Clay soil. At most 1 worm per spade chunk soil structure is at best described as buggered.
There’s a tree in the middle of the field with a rough area by it one spade chunk had probably half a dozen worms in with some real big buggers which was nice to see.
Cover crop is planned for after the winter barley comes off before spring cropping.
 

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