Solid urea use restricted and to be regulated by Red Tractor

[ollie989898]

It does make you wonder who the real backstabbers are.

Fertiliser companies who clearly don't like urea cutting into their marketplace and morons at the NFU who are more than happy to oblige them. Urea applied early in the cold and damp (where virtually everyone applies it) does no more harm than AN. It's balderdash to claim otherwise. The rest of the world relies heavily on urea as it reduces the volume of product needing to be shifted and applied. Urea is also kinder to soil life.

 

[curlietailz]

How is RT going to regulate the urea use on farms they don’t inspect ?
Two tier system again

 

[teslacoils]

Fertiliser companies who clearly don't like urea cutting into their marketplace and morons at the NFU who are more than happy to oblige them. Urea applied early in the cold and damp (where virtually everyone applies it) does no more harm than AN. It's balderdash to claim otherwise. The rest of the world relies heavily on urea as it reduces the volume of product needing to be shifted and applied. Urea is also kinder to soil life.

I'll be spreading uninhibited urea late next week. Crop canopies are decent and there will be some dew to melt it.

 

[MrNoo]

How is RT going to regulate the urea use on farms they don’t inspect ?
Two tier system again

They won’t have to, you just won’t be able to buy it unless RT assured, easy

 

[ollie989898]

I'll be spreading uninhibited urea late next week. Crop canopies are decent and there will be some dew to melt it.

It's still struggling to get above 11 degrees here! This isn't the kind of weather where urea is going to disappear off to Norway.

 

[teslacoils]

It's still struggling to get above 11 degrees here! This isn't the kind of weather where urea is going to disappear off to Norway.

Any soil scientist is welcome to come and monitor the losses.

 

[Steevo]

Spotted this in the latest Red Tractor "Member Matters" newsletter that turned up yesterday.

Member Matters - August 2023

Here’s your August edition of Member Matters, with all the latest news and updates from your Red Tractor team.

redtractor.turtl.co

 

[curlietailz]

And how are they going to “police” all the farmers who are not Red Tractor assured?

 

[e3120]

And how are they going to “police” all the farmers who are not Red Tractor assured?

I'll wager they hope to follow the rat bait model - RT number required for purchase. Classic pincer movement to mandate membership.

 

[Steevo]

And how are they going to “police” all the farmers who are not Red Tractor assured?

No need. They can seemingly do as they please.

As can farmers in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

 

[Steevo]

And how are they going to “police” all the farmers who are not Red Tractor assured?

It's interesting also that they state "if the urea industry doesn't self regulate".

To me the "urea industry" would be the manufacturers of such products.

And yet the quotes are not from the "urea industry" but from the farming industry.



I also note they refer him as "NFU Deputy President" as opposed to "Director on the board of Red Tractor".



The final sentence shows their intended direction of travel.....it won't stop here.

 

[teslacoils]

Aren't we told that in terms of world fert sales, we are like a single rat turd in a load of miling wheat?

By "the industry" they mean their circle-jerk AIC mates.

Whole thing reads like an orchestrated "aren't we great" ploy.

 

[MrNoo]

He’s a little turncoat!!
picture of a PM I had with him re the RT license to trade, this was Nov 21!!!

 

[Flat 10]

I'll wager they hope to follow the rat bait model - RT number required for purchase. Classic pincer movement to mandate membership.

It becomes a license to farm. They are completely unaccountable. Our union certainly won't help!!!

 

[bobk]

Makes you want to stick the lot in a scheme and lie on a beach somewhere

 

[Nearly]

Or stick the lot on the market and lie on a quango commitee.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

He’s a little turncoat!!
picture of a PM I had with him re the RT license to trade, this was Nov 21!!!
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Can't be very transparent if he still hasn't found out what goes on

 

[Steevo]

Can't be very transparent if he still hasn't found out what goes on

Not just that....but we appear to have gone backwards from that position.

After all, from 1st April 2024 there will no longer be a level playing field within the United Kingdom. English farmers will now be further concerned about "imports" from Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland......and potentially vice versa too.

Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish farmers will not have any idea whether the wheat/barley/animal feed they are purchasing has been treated with fertilisers containing organophosphate compounds.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Not just that....but we appear to have gone backwards from that position.

After all, from 1st April 2024 there will no longer be a level playing field within the United Kingdom. English farmers will now be further concerned about "imports" from Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland......and potentially vice versa too.

Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish farmers will not have any idea whether the wheat/barley/animal feed they are purchasing has been treated with fertilisers containing organophosphate compounds.

Good point.

 

[Steevo]

Makes you want to stick the lot in a scheme and lie on a beach somewhere

Frying pan and fire spring to mind.

Natural England knows best?

Telegraph. Bill Potter. Fell ponies. ....link story to this thread please. Criminal waste of tax payer money?

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