Some help on salaries please

There’s working hours and there’s working hours.
I’ve been in places that you have to be busy or at least look it during the “working” hours.
then I’ve been places that understand that you don’t always have to be doing something to be actually working
6 herdsman and 450 cows, I'd think they will need to find plenty of jobs to look busy
 

Sharpy

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Livestock Farmer
If you are happy at your starting wage and it goes up in line with your usefulness then I would go for it. With plenty of other staff you should never feel stranded or struggle to get time off when you need it.
 

Rossymons

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Location
Cornwall
Good or bad thing?

Sounds very staffed up on the cow side with a lot of arable. With 5 experienced members of staff already, I can't see them giving up their stock work to sit in a tractor. As the newbie you'll be given whatever is left over which will be the jobs they don't want which will probably be tractor work and relief milking.
 

Mc115reed

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Livestock Farmer
Sounds very staffed up on the cow side with a lot of arable. With 5 experienced members of staff already, I can't see them giving up their stock work to sit in a tractor. As the newbie you'll be given whatever is left over which will be the jobs they don't want which will probably be tractor work and relief milking.
I’m guessing the ops “5 others” might just be 5 other workers? Surely it’s 2 in the parlour, 1 fetching and returning and scraping cows, 1 feeding cows and 1 just doing a bit of everything?
 

kfpben

Member
Location
Mid Hampshire
450 cows plus youngstock.

Two in the parlour, one scraping up and moving cows round, one on calves and youngstock, one feeding/tractoring.
Herd manager AIing, foot trimming, dealing with problem cows (and people!), paperwork, compliance etc.

Everyone has holidays and days off to cover.
Doesn’t sound overstaffed to me? Sounds about right.
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
6 on 2 off, so that means you're doing full hours on the weekend?
You're not going to get a full weekend very often. Money wise, its probably not too bad for entry level. People are saying you'll get more as you get experience but I'd ask if this is the case, its unlikely your duties will change with time unless people leave so why would they up your rate?
 

Jason86

New Member
6 on 2 off, so that means you're doing full hours on the weekend?
You're not going to get a full weekend very often. Money wise, its probably not too bad for entry level. People are saying you'll get more as you get experience but I'd ask if this is the case, its unlikely your duties will change with time unless people leave so why would they up your rate?
Correct. Full hours, and not often a weekend.
 

Jason86

New Member
Biggest question not yet asked is it a hike in wage compared to your current job?
It is yes, by about 7k, that said I'm currently well underpaid I'm my current job, I think anyway. I currently work 5 1/2 days a week, only getting of Sunday and half of Saturday.
 

coomoo

Member
It is yes, by about 7k, that said I'm currently well underpaid I'm my current job, I think anyway. I currently work 5 1/2 days a week, only getting of Sunday and half of Saturday.
Think you’d enjoy the step up to it by the sound of your current job. I’d totally agree with @BRB John
I'd say it was worth probably £36K but as your inexperienced I'd agree to do a year at 30 and if they're happy with you they'd increase it to 33k and then 36k the following year.
Going by current inflation that's probably the minimum you'd need anyway....
 

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