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Howard150

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But you being so short sighted, you wouldn't be able to tell wether you were close to or in.

gNasher gNasher gNasher Do yourself a favour and put down your spade. You are out of your depth.

Let me give you a little analogy
‘ thinking he is a W9 and not the everyday 275 he is, 275 gets braver by the minute, sniping at some of the bigger tractors that are parked in the shed. Most of them know that he might be well intentioned- it’s just that it does not always come over that way.
Feeling buoyed up and successful he has a few beers just to reinforce his superiority.
Next morning he fires his truck up - king of the road, not noticing he has inadvertently slipped the PTO into gear with his foot. Just that little bit harder to get the gears but hey ho - no big deal after recent achievements. Body creeping up.
Down the road a way and the handling, although compromised is no big deal. Might well be a good time to flick the ignition off and back on again. No limiter and we are off. Body still creeping up.
Just supposing you are lucky enough not to end up sideways on in the dyke, given your extra turn of speed or lucky enough that you managed to do it without the steering lock engaging, then sooner or later - especially with your head in the clouds and the body still creeping up - you are going to whack that low bridge - and how! Don’t expect any sympathy when you do.
When will you all wake up to the fact that what a few of us on here want to see is a fair deal for ploughmen, not the way things are at present. Time to be rid of favoutism and local bias.
And that’s before we get (again from the horses mouth) to the bit about the World Style plots at the National, taking it upon themselves to up sticks and swap round from the order they were originally marked out in. Plot numbers - who’d ave em. Animal farm rules apply.
What this thread does highlight is a lack of youth development program, something readily visible in both Scotland and Southern Ireland.
 
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Pennine Ploughing

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Mixed Farmer
I was on the adjacent plot to NrNoo, was challenging conditions!View attachment 730536 View attachment 730538
Just a little tip for everyone on here, as seen in the bottom picture carrying straw with a fork if there is a lot is time consuming, carry a tote bag on the tractor, it folds up into very little room, yet will hold lots of straw filled with a fork on the plot, just drag it with you as you collect the straw, then drag it to the headland and empty it, fold tote bag up, and store on tractor till next time you need it,
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
Just a little tip for everyone on here, as seen in the bottom picture carrying straw with a fork if there is a lot is time consuming, carry a tote bag on the tractor, it folds up into very little room, yet will hold lots of straw filled with a fork on the plot, just drag it with you as you collect the straw, then drag it to the headland and empty it, fold tote bag up, and store on tractor till next time you need it,
Not a bad idea. Has anyone ever turned up with a baler?:(
 

Ley253

Member
Location
Bath
Just a little tip for everyone on here, as seen in the bottom picture carrying straw with a fork if there is a lot is time consuming, carry a tote bag on the tractor, it folds up into very little room, yet will hold lots of straw filled with a fork on the plot, just drag it with you as you collect the straw, then drag it to the headland and empty it, fold tote bag up, and store on tractor till next time you need it,
Have you been watching Jon Cole?
 

Ley253

Member
Location
Bath
I thought about a flame gun. Our ancestors who burnt all the stubbles had the right idea. No wonder they got rid of their skimmers.
Thats an idea, can you still buy a flame cultivator? Mind you having one on the front linkage may compromise vision a bit!
 

IH574

Member
gNasher gNasher gNasher Do yourself a favour and put down your spade. You are out of your depth.

Let me give you a little analogy
‘ thinking he is a W9 and not the everyday 275 he is, 275 gets braver by the minute, sniping at some of the bigger tractors that are parked in the shed. Most of them know that he might be well intentioned- it’s just that it does not always come over that way.
Feeling buoyed up and successful he has a few beers just to reinforce his superiority.
Next morning he fires his truck up - king of the road, not noticing he has inadvertently slipped the PTO into gear with his foot. Just that little bit harder to get the gears but hey ho - no big deal after recent achievements. Body creeping up.
Down the road a way and the handling, although compromised is no big deal. Might well be a good time to flick the ignition off and back on again. No limiter and we are off. Body still creeping up.
Just supposing you are lucky enough not to end up sideways on in the dyke, given your extra turn of speed or lucky enough that you managed to do it without the steering lock engaging, then sooner or later - especially with your head in the clouds and the body still creeping up - you are going to whack that low bridge - and how! Don’t expect any sympathy when you do.
When will you all wake up to the fact that what a few of us on here want to see is a fair deal for ploughmen, not the way things are at present. Time to be rid of favoutism and local bias.
And that’s before we get (again from the horses mouth) to the bit about the World Style plots at the National, taking it upon themselves to up sticks and swap round from the order they were originally marked out in. Plot numbers - who’d ave em. Animal farm rules apply.
What this thread does highlight is a lack of youth development program, something readily visible in both Scotland and Southern Ireland.
So you think of yourself on of the big boys? Why do you have such a downer on world style? They are ploughmen too. My grandfather told me plough your plot the best you can. If you get a bad one don't complain just do your best. It's a pity you never met him. It seems to me you would find something to winge about if your plot was like a bowling green.Grow some balls and get on with the ploughing and try to cut the stirring out and accept that out her people may have an opinion that differs from yours, that doesn't mean they are wrong. There is a shortage of young ploughmen coming through but your rants and stirring do nothing to help the situation and before you twist that I didn't say you are the cause. And in your words the said little 275 doesn't drink. As for the big W9 it's past it's best and like most old thing can be a cantankerous sod.
 
Had someone this year at a match rake the loose straw to the wrong side of his start ie my side, he wandered over to me and asked what I wanted to him to do with it! I was a bit set back and simply told him to get rid of it on his plot. He then proceeded to fill the open furrow with most of it, but after he'd done his six rounds....I was ****ing furious...but he seem to find it quite amusing! So the next two or three runs I spent raking his trash into my furrows to get rid of it. Told the steward and he shrugged it off! Didn't effect my result and I came in 2nd (which was correct). I'm still flabbergasted by it now and as for the steward, what a waste of space! Glad I don't plough against this chap very often!
 
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MrNoo

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Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Funny that Fergie, I had a chap I had never seen before plough next to me at a match this year who put his crown together by hand, the whole length of it, I sat and waited as had done my 6 rounds and was due to plough up to him, quite a crown gathered to watch his green fingers at work. The Fergie Class is not too bad re gardening. No stewards anywhere so I had a word with him about it, he exclaimed that he was doing it because he wanted to win. I told him I did too but I wouldnt do such things as it was deemed cheating.
When I went and measured for parallel to his plot he asked was it far out, which it was 1ft4" out, so I replied yes, he said "good" I dont loose my cool very often but I would have gladly punched him in the face. But I will look forward to ploughing next to him again as I shall employ all the dubious tricks I know to make it diffacult. I think he was placed 3rd that day.
Tricks I have had played on me are putting the split in over 2ft out at one end on purpose and one old sage whom I was due to plough up to, went down his crown again on my side, so went 7 times round and left me one run to sort out parallel and others I have seen are people driving along looking at the plots after finishing and driving over all the in's and out's of a main rival.
Am sure you could write a book on the tricks employed by some people!!!
 

arcobob

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Location
Norfolk
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Funny that Fergie, I had a chap I had never seen before plough next to me at a match this year who put his crown together by hand, the whole length of it, I sat and waited as had done my 6 rounds and was due to plough up to him, quite a crown gathered to watch his green fingers at work. The Fergie Class is not too bad re gardening. No stewards anywhere so I had a word with him about it, he exclaimed that he was doing it because he wanted to win. I told him I did too but I wouldnt do such things as it was deemed cheating.
When I went and measured for parallel to his plot he asked was it far out, which it was 1ft4" out, so I replied yes, he said "good" I dont loose my cool very often but I would have gladly punched him in the face. But I will look forward to ploughing next to him again as I shall employ all the dubious tricks I know to make it diffacult. I think he was placed 3rd that day.
Tricks I have had played on me are putting the split in over 2ft out at one end on purpose and one old sage whom I was due to plough up to, went down his crown again on my side, so went 7 times round and left me one run to sort out parallel and others I have seen are people driving along looking at the plots after finishing and driving over all the in's and out's of a main rival.
Am sure you could write a book on the tricks employed by some people!!!
Along with Fergie`s post these instances really would put youngster off from getting into the sport. Who would obey the rules when those that made them don`t bother ?
 

Howard150

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Location
Yorkshire
Had someone this year at a match rake the loose straw to the wrong side of his start ie my side, he wandered over to me and asked what I wanted to him to do with it! I was a put set back and simple told him to get rid of it on his plot. He then proceeded to fill the open furrow with most of it, but after he'd done his six rounds....I was ****ing furious...but he seem to find it quite amusing! So the next two or three runs I spent raking his trash into my furrows to get rid of it. Told the steward and he shrugged it off! Didn't effect my result and I came in 2nd (which was correct). I'm still flabbergasted by it now and as for the steward, what a waste of space! Glad I don't plough against this chap very often!

Only option is to throw it straight back onto his plot. Outrageous that somebody could even contemplate doing that to somebody else’s plot.
 

Howard150

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Location
Yorkshire
Funny that Fergie, I had a chap I had never seen before plough next to me at a match this year who put his crown together by hand, the whole length of it, I sat and waited as had done my 6 rounds and was due to plough up to him, quite a crown gathered to watch his green fingers at work. The Fergie Class is not too bad re gardening. No stewards anywhere so I had a word with him about it, he exclaimed that he was doing it because he wanted to win. I told him I did too but I wouldnt do such things as it was deemed cheating.
When I went and measured for parallel to his plot he asked was it far out, which it was 1ft4" out, so I replied yes, he said "good" I dont loose my cool very often but I would have gladly punched him in the face. But I will look forward to ploughing next to him again as I shall employ all the dubious tricks I know to make it diffacult. I think he was placed 3rd that day.
Tricks I have had played on me are putting the split in over 2ft out at one end on purpose and one old sage whom I was due to plough up to, went down his crown again on my side, so went 7 times round and left me one run to sort out parallel and others I have seen are people driving along looking at the plots after finishing and driving over all the in's and out's of a main rival.
Am sure you could write a book on the tricks employed by some people!!!

Old favourite moving the sticks across, that’s why we always dig vees out. Only works when the culprit has a false rig or his other side will also be out.
One trick that really stinks is early finishers going round with judges and pointing out other people’s bad points.
With regard to extra runs round, you have two regardless and In the spirit of the thing he should have been disqualified for having his plough in the ground other than on his own plot.
 

arcobob

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Location
Norfolk
If I have a major bung up and I clear my plough what can I do with the resulting debris? Whatever the answer it has to be moved after the commencement of ploughing.
 

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