SORN /UNINSURED Vehicle

[Penmoel]

Had two letters from DVLA back in January with V14 return of RFL for nil revenue vehicles, which said they had checked the MID database and the DVLA records which showed two vehicle a 52 year old Nuffield and a 32 year old Claas Combine which had road fund licence but did not show on the MID data base. We have a blanket tractor policy which would have covered the vehicles if they went on the raod, but of course we need to notify the insurers within 7 days.

The letters said "IMPORTANT do not ignore" so I did not and duly returned the tax discs and declared SORN.

Had two letters yseterday syaing £100 fine for both vehicles reduced to £50 if paid 7 days earlier.
As I have not yet had confirmation from DVLA it seems I am guiltyand must pay, money raking scheme I think easy prey for a paper offence.

There was a thread on BFF about this once before wish I could find it now. Anyone else ahd this rubbish?

We appealed saying we had sent the forms back, had two letters today saying no further action to be taken on either vehicle.

Don't give in to the Bas&&%ds

 

[RobFZS]

alot of people take them to court and win because of this, once you put the sorn in the post, that is your end of the deal done, and the dvla have to prove you havnt posted it, in basic terms.

it is quite illegal what they do, but they get away with it because soo many people don't want the hassle and just pay up. a fine can only be issued by the court.

 

[The_Swede]

I had a similar letter for a van two weeks ago, was unimpressed as had sent a sorn in around a fortnight before this.... whilst mulling over what to do the acknowledgement of SORN came through and dates meant I was not liable.... it seems that the payment demand can be sent quicker than a SORN so hold your horses before paying up folks!

 

[caveman]

Had this several years ago but paid up as I hadn't the time to contest before and could not afford a ccj at the time due to pending borrowing commitments.
They booked me up for no sorn on a vehicle which I had scrapped and sent the log book bits back to them which must have got lost.
I reckon that it is also illegal for them to use a court out of the area as well. Your assumed offence is commited where your address of keeping the vehicle is and should be dealt with in your local county court. Not in fekkin Banbury or wherever they are using now. (Unless you live in Banbury of course).

 

[Campbell]

Just had a run in with them over 'alleged' non notification of change of vehicle owner. I had of course sent the V5C within a few days of sale. However, it has taken a year and sort it out, ending in me paying £35 penalty. Can't begin to describe their intransigent attitude, they deny even recieving a special signed for letter! which cost me a fiver. Clincher is in the small print that says it is your responsibility to ensure you recieve DVLA aknowledgement of your notification of change of owner. So when their mail system goes tits up, it's the evil motorist that gets the penalty. If I had nothing better [and the money] to do I'd have gone to court with it. Would have cost £35 in fuel to get there and back

Bring on the Revolution.

 

[The_Swede]

Would they not be liable for any reasonable costs if you won? I'd have been tempted to take it there, it seems they are just banking on people paying up 'for a quiet life' in many such cases, especially this one when you have used recorded post.

 

[RobFZS]

Would they not be liable for any reasonable costs if you won? I'd have been tempted to take it there, it seems they are just banking on people paying up 'for a quiet life' in many such cases, especially this one when you have used recorded post.

yeh i think they have to pay you travel costs and days wage or something

http://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=185543&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

guy who fought and won on another forum i am on.

 

[The_Swede]

The more people who take them to task the less they will try it on.... I think I remember seeing the (then?) head of the DVLA on BBC watchdog a couple of years ago. He got an absolute roasting following reports from 'customers' of responses to correspondence saying that 'they do not make mistakes'.... unbelievable that this could be offered as a defence. Get stuck in if you are sure your are in the right!