Spray license

Jsmith2211

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Somerset
Whoa there chaps! Some of you are being rather hard on the OP. He sounds as though he may have been thrown in at the deep end without a life belt. He was posting earlier on about using a new to him combine. Top marks to him for coming on here to seek advice so let’s help him rather than be rude please.
Thanks. I'd rather ask people who know more than I do than just go on doing things wrong, or getting others to do them instead. Usually the best way to learn how to do something is to do it.
 

Gav

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Norfolk
Pa1 & Pa2a needed as a minimum to legally be able to apply pesticides professionally with a boom sprayer. If you intend to use a hand lance on the sprayer or a knapsack sprayer you will need to hold Pa6a to be legal as well within the UK.
Budget for £200-250 per module roughly and it shouldn’t be far out based on costs locally.
I’ve been carrying out training for Pa assessments for 6 years although only on a part time basis now and have come across some real horror stories of what people think is the right way to do things compared to what is legally required.
 

daveydiesel1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co antrim
How much is it to do a spray liesence in ni? Iv got the chemical bit and the 1 for the knapsack as did it thru moypark if i can still find it so should only need the tractor sprayer bit
 

Bobthebuilder

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
northumberland
Whoa there chaps! Some of you are being rather hard on the OP. He sounds as though he may have been thrown in at the deep end without a life belt. He was posting earlier on about using a new to him combine. Top marks to him for coming on here to seek advice so let’s help him rather than be rude please.
a better worded question explaining his situation would've got a more favourable response
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
If you are prepared to take the consequences, there is always the option of ignoring the law. Which let's be honest is what most of us consider when we weigh up the odds.

What is the fine for using a knapsack sprayer to kill the weeds in the yard anyway? Or around field margins? And what are the chances of getting caught? Is it "domestic" or "industrial"? We've already learned that doing it the "proper way" is going to cost several hundred pounds and we all know job's worth goes home at 4pm on a Friday afternoon and he certainly won't be around on a moonlit night or bank holiday.

Laws that can't be enforced really really annoy me because they usually seem to be applied selectively. Laws should be applied equally to all but these regulations seldom are.
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
How the hell we managed to grow food without licences and certificates for 4000 years amazes me.
Has UK Agriculture turned woke ?. Discuss.
I’d say yes. Usually in a woke environment it’s those that shout loudest that get heard, they also very often have a fairly basic point that is hard to argue without sounding like a pedantic troll of some sort………kind of like what is happening on this thread I guess.

what was it Trump said “everything woke turns to sh1t”?
 

Boohoo

Member
Location
Newtownabbey
How much is it to do a spray liesence in ni? Iv got the chemical bit and the 1 for the knapsack as did it thru moypark if i can still find it so should only need the tractor sprayer bit
£290 with cafre
There are other training providers but they were more expensive when I did my PA 1, 2 and 6.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
What they are worried about is chemical spills due to bad setup of machinery or improper storage which is fair enough really.

From an operator's point of view, you should really be getting your sprayer up to the point where it would pass the MOT anyway. It's not particularly onerous and mostly covers sensible stuff like making sure you don't have leaks and it sprays the right amount of product you want to, evenly. The piece of paper just certifies that it's at the standard you really should have it at anyway...... but at a cost of £250 or so. Fine spread over 1000 acres, but over a small acreage it's a good amount per ac.

If you really have little understanding of pesticides and their application, the training course for the PA certificates will protect you and those around you (& your farm) and is a one off cost.

Any farmer can buy glyphosate, or any other pesticide, from a distributor. The person applying it needs to hold the certificates.
 

Pennine Ploughing

Member
Mixed Farmer
How much spraying is the OP going to do in real terms ?

Needs to weigh up the costs and advantages, against getting a contractor to do it.

By the time he puts the man hours in sorting the sprayer, and any parts it needs, and yes it will needs parts if not used for a long time.
Together with getting training and test for PA1, PA2 and PA6. For what could be a couple of years before Roundup may be banned, seems a lot of expense for not much area to cover.
Could be better off, putting the sprayer in an auction getting it away, getting a contractor to do the spraying and use his/her time saved doing productive work instead to offset the spraying costs
 

Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
How much spraying is the OP going to do in real terms ?

Needs to weigh up the costs and advantages, against getting a contractor to do it.

By the time he puts the man hours in sorting the sprayer, and any parts it needs, and yes it will needs parts if not used for a long time.
Together with getting training and test for PA1, PA2 and PA6. For what could be a couple of years before Roundup may be banned, seems a lot of expense for not much area to cover.
Could be better off, putting the sprayer in an auction getting it away, getting a contractor to do the spraying and use his/her time saved doing productive work instead to offset the spraying costs
One way to look at it?
Op in his 1st post stated old sprayer only 12m so no good for the arable side???
What else do they do or got?
Also if we all keep backing down then that's it.
If your in the system not too bad and easier for other schemes also then possibly.
 
All this chat about PA 1/2 made me think back. I got mine in 1987 [number 269] as I was also training to be an examiner. I did the course at my local college [Farm Institute as they were then known as.] It really was a hoot having a course run by lecturers who only knew the theory side of the job, and seeing men who were competent operators of 24m SP machines running around in full protective gear filling knapsack sprayers with milk powder or orange juice. I hope training has improved since then!
 

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