Spray question.....

1594mac

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Northern Ireland
I was looking something to control some docks and dandelions etc it has been suggested to use doxstar with some agritox. Has anyone any other suggestions? Forefront etc is out of the question as the silage is sold off so I cant use anything with a restriction.
 

Brisel

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NFFN Member
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Midlands
Dockstar is good on docks, unsurprisingly. Dandelions are on the label too. The MCPA in Agritox looks useful for thistles and will complement the other. The Agritox label states them as moderately resistant.
 

milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Straight fluroxypyr is far cheaper than doxstar. You might have to a e another go but I doubt doxstar will do them in one go either. Some go in twice at half rate.

The non recommended way to make it nuclear is to mix some thistlex with it and I don’t think you’d have many weeds left. Half rate toska with half rate thistlex makes doxstar with a little extra kick (Clopyralid) . I have never tried this :whistle:
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Straight fluroxypyr is far cheaper than doxstar. You might have to a e another go but I doubt doxstar will do them in one go either. Some go in twice at half rate.

The non recommended way to make it nuclear is to mix some thistlex with it and I don’t think you’d have many weeds left. Half rate toska with half rate thistlex makes doxstar with a little extra kick (Clopyralid) . I have never tried this :whistle:

Would that mix not just be called PasTor?

Apparently a lot of the generics have shot up in Price this year, making Pastor as cheap.
 
Tis too cold for any of it....


Take doxstar at half rate and add straight cheapo fluroxypyr.

Add required adjuvant.

There you go, weapons grade uranium! :D

Im not convinced adding cheapo hormones to the DoW products makes much odds. Dandelion are hurt by fluroxypyr anyway and if you want to catch thistles add clopyralid.
 
Asulox works well on Docks but isn't licensed for it and will only be availble to purchase (for Bracken) after the start of the Emergency Authorisation period on 20th May 2019 for use in the period 1st July - 31st October 2019.

So probably not the most useful info!
 

milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
@ollie989898 , appreciate some advice if you’ve got the time :)

I’ve got one ley with clumps of nettles all over from an old dung heap, not too strong/old yet, no clover but I’ll have to boom spray the whole field.
Another ley that just has a mayweed problem and a boom sprayjob again.
Would like advice on chemical for each that is cheap and cheerful if you could, or anyone else that wants to have a go!(y)
 

TheTallGuy

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Location
Cambridgeshire
@ollie989898 , appreciate some advice if you’ve got the time :)

I’ve got one ley with clumps of nettles all over from an old dung heap, not too strong/old yet, no clover but I’ll have to boom spray the whole field.
Another ley that just has a mayweed problem and a boom sprayjob again.
Would like advice on chemical for each that is cheap and cheerful if you could, or anyone else that wants to have a go!(y)
Triclopyr would be my guess on both, but I am no expert.
 
@ollie989898 , appreciate some advice if you’ve got the time :)

I’ve got one ley with clumps of nettles all over from an old dung heap, not too strong/old yet, no clover but I’ll have to boom spray the whole field.
Another ley that just has a mayweed problem and a boom sprayjob again.
Would like advice on chemical for each that is cheap and cheerful if you could, or anyone else that wants to have a go!(y)

If you have nettles you want pastor. Or forefront but lots of restrictions on that as you know.
 

milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Thanks All, fore front is out as it’s far too expensive although I’m well aware of its effectiveness on grassland weeds in general. Silage ground too although no manure/forage will leave the holding.

I’m think straight fluroxypyr might make them sick enough as they’re not well established yet?
 
Thanks All, fore front is out as it’s far too expensive although I’m well aware of its effectiveness on grassland weeds in general. Silage ground too although no manure/forage will leave the holding.

I’m think straight fluroxypyr might make them sick enough as they’re not well established yet?

Sorry are these nettles in a new ley or have they been there a long time?

I would spot spray the clumps with pastor or similar. Wait until they are 12 inches tall and looking well pleased with themselves.

Fluroxypyr on its own is not that great.

If it is a new ley then headland Polo and hatchet/fluorxypyr is all you can use really. There is a new product called leystar but I am not sure how cost effective it is on new leys.
 

milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Sorry are these nettles in a new ley or have they been there a long time?

I would spot spray the clumps with pastor or similar. Wait until they are 12 inches tall and looking well pleased with themselves.

Fluroxypyr on its own is not that great.

If it is a new ley then headland Polo and hatchet/fluorxypyr is all you can use really. There is a new product called leystar but I am not sure how cost effective it is on new leys.

No, 5th year but the nettles were a recent import off an old dung lump that was spread last autumn.

What gets mayweed, no other weeds of concern?
 

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