Spraying Docks and associated weeds on grassland.

[shumungus]

Been quoted £110/£120 per 5l of Forefront. what mixes out there would do the same job for less money. What is that like as a price for Forefront?

 

[wdah/him]

Been quoted £110/£120 per 5l of Forefront. what mixes out there would do the same job for less money. What is that like as a price for Forefront?

i have had hit and miss with forefront, same day differernt fields. wouldnt spray it myself now but if a customer wants it he gets it. prefer pastour for general tidy up. was once told to use a small amount of grazon pro with mcpa, or maybe it was 2.4d for a general all round kill of all weeds. however if i have rushes i use lupo

 

[Still Farming]

Thrust good product.

 

[milkloss]

When I used to use forefront I found it to be an amazing product not only for the range of grassland weeds it would tackle but also for the kill.

for docks and nettles along with a few thistles a good dose of fluroxypyr with a dash of thistlex usually does quite a comprehensive job. It's not an authorised mix and I'm not recommending it but it has the same actives as pastor.

 

[Chae1]

I've used straight fluoxypr last few years. Initially it looks to have worked, burns all tops off. But most of them seem to grow back again. Trying Forefront this year. Will see how it does.

 

[milkloss]

I've used straight fluoxypr last few years. Initially it looks to have worked, burns all tops off. But most of them seem to grow back again. Trying Forefront this year. Will see how it does.

what prices have you had for forefront?

The last few years I've found tricky to get the timing right for docks.... some are still tinged red and some are up and going to far. Going through twice with fluroxypyr in one field has managed to bash them pretty good so I don't think it's all bad.

 

[Boohoo]

No idea what else you could use because we patch spray with Grazon, but £110 or £120 is a good price for Forefront compared to the £135 that a neighbour says he paid.

 

[Happy]

I've used straight fluoxypr last few years. Initially it looks to have worked, burns all tops off. But most of them seem to grow back again. Trying Forefront this year. Will see how it does.

Same here.
I just bite the bullet now and do it once with Forefront rather than multiple years with cheap generic fluroxypr. Have found it less dependent on docks being exactly at the right stage which in a whole field they never all seem to be.
Does a great job on Ragwort too.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I've used straight fluoxypr last few years. Initially it looks to have worked, burns all tops off. But most of them seem to grow back again. Trying Forefront this year. Will see how it does.

It worked here but like Dockstar needs a 2cd year

 

[Hesstondriver]

Fluroxypyr-5l-l-fluroxypyr - Farm Marketplace

Out of Stock until Thursday 6th May Treat tricky weeds in grassland and other crops Flexible selective herbicide suitable for knapsack or boom spray and as a stand alone or in a tank mix Product Name HurlerMAPP Reg Number 17715Authorisation Holder Barclay Chemicals R & D LimitedMarketing Company

www.marketplace.farm

£24/ha + application

 

[TheEarlOfMoray]

Used minstrel here this year on silage ground with docks. Works well enough. Cost around £8 acre

 

[DaveGrohl]

Straight fluroxypyr does a great job on docks but timing is everything. You never get all of them though.

 

[Still Farming]

I've used straight fluoxypr last few years. Initially it looks to have worked, burns all tops off. But most of them seem to grow back again. Trying Forefront this year. Will see how it does.

They always come back what ever used

 

[X344chap]

I had good results with Headland Polo - nothing fancy - just MCPA and 2,4 D but it knocked the docks over in a couple of days and they haven't come back.

 

[shumungus]

I had good results with Headland Polo - nothing fancy - just MCPA and 2,4 D but it knocked the docks over in a couple of days and they haven't come back.

What rate?

 

[yin ewe]

We used foundation and agritox mixed last year, seems to be fewer docks about this year.

 

[Wellytrack]

Docks are an extremely successful weed. It’s a mistake to think they can be eliminated in just one year by anything. It will take at least three years. Apply half rate forefront thereafter to keep them at bay.

 

[v8willy]

Dockstar & some mcpa?

Need to be careful where you go with Forefront, as in if used on silage ground ( not supposed to I know) that the following slurry/dung doesn't get spread on land going for spuds or veg.

 

[Rs chunk]

What about the clover has anybody still got some after spraying?

 

[Homesy]

Docks are an extremely successful weed. It’s a mistake to think they can be eliminated in just one year by anything. It will take at least three years. Apply half rate forefront thereafter to keep them at bay.

3 years you're joking. Dock seeds remain viable in the soil for up to 80 years. Each seeded dock can produce 100000 seeds. When a dock grows it produces a hormone which stops other dock seeds germinating. So kill 1 there are another 99999 waiting.
I spot spray mine with a knapsack. I use Blaster with some crop oil and some Done That marker. You would be surprised how much you can cover in an hour. The docks get a good hammering and no yield loss in the grass. Even allowing for labour it works out at a fraction of the cost of doing the whole field and does a better job. The yield loss with spraying the whole field can be substantial especially in dry hot weather. Try doing half field and see the difference.