Spreading fibrophos

[Mounty]

Sounds like you'll need a balanced grade then. That's 0-12-12 in these parts but may be a higher concentration your way?

 

[Clever Dic]

Had it two years ago won't have it again.
Grass seeds seem particularly good at picking out spreading inaccuracies. Had 200 acres done by contractor and was very disappointed with the spread .Probably wrong and unlucky but now sooner pay more and use a granular product through my spreader that' been tested with the product over trays. Plus you can use VR.

 

[Brisel]

You can get Fibrophos spread via VR. It's how all mine is done. What widths was your spread at? My contractor uses wings to create a good vortex & he won't spread in a wind I wouldn't go spraying in.

Sorry to hear it didn't work for you.

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

Sounds like you'll need a balanced grade then. That's 0-12-12 in these parts but may be a higher concentration your way?

I have been looking at their 0-18-18? Need plenty to get it going. Just old neglected ground that I can no longer afford to do things the way they have been for many years

 

[Simon Chiles]

Had it two years ago won't have it again.
Grass seeds seem particularly good at picking out spreading inaccuracies. Had 200 acres done by contractor and was very disappointed with the spread .Probably wrong and unlucky but now sooner pay more and use a granular product through my spreader that' been tested with the product over trays. Plus you can use VR.

I think you’re looking at that the wrong way round. The fact that you can see the spreading inaccuracies I’d say proves what a good product it is. Whilst your spreader is more accurate some granular products take a lifetime to become available to the plant. They obviously do increase your indices and it will show as a result under chemical extraction in a lab but plant availability is something else. As such even if you got it wrong with the granular product it wouldn’t show up. I’d be looking to find someone who can stick the fibrophos on more accurately.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Agreed.

It seems you have a problem with the contractor not the product.

 

[ollie989898]

I have been looking at their 0-18-18? Need plenty to get it going. Just old neglected ground that I can no longer afford to do things the way they have been for many years

Do not apply any more P and K to anything if you intend to 'dispose' of all that FYM first!

These bulk products only work if you are doing an area/rate that amounts up to a full load or two otherwise you are better off bagged.

If the old man is still reluctant with your capers just do a small area this spring and say 'told you so'.

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

Do not apply any more P and K to anything if you intend to 'dispose' of all that FYM first!

These bulk products only work if you are doing an area/rate that amounts up to a full load or two otherwise you are better off bagged.

If the old man is still reluctant with your capers just do a small area this spring and say 'told you so'.

Cheers Ollie, I'm just looking at other options in the meantime to get the ball rolling. Also got the chance at about 150-200T of chicken litter. My only worry with that is dead birds . Could I mix that in with my cow and spread accordingly?

 

[ollie989898]

The risk with chicken muck is up to you. I had a customer who used it and spread it on grassland, when he was harrowing it in in the spring he found 1 part of one wing and he made an effort to look. Had no issues even though he made silage from some of it.

If you are going to plough it down pronto I would use it simply because it works so well.

There is no need to mix it with anything, you spread it fairly gently, it is rocket fuel.

Other guys I know take slurry from a neighbouring dairy or pig farm. I did not do the sums but the saving must have gone some way toward making it worthwhile buying their own tanker.

 

[Robigus]

What about rotational applications of P-grow or Fibrophos?
In a combinable rotation how many seasons worth can you put on in one go, and what would be a reasonable estimation of the annual % uptake?

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

The risk with chicken muck is up to you. I had a customer who used it and spread it on grassland, when he was harrowing it in in the spring he found 1 part of one wing and he made an effort to look. Had no issues even though he made silage from some of it.

If you are going to plough it down pronto I would use it simply because it works so well.

There is no need to mix it with anything, you spread it fairly gently, it is rocket fuel.

Other guys I know take slurry from a neighbouring dairy or pig farm. I did not do the sums but the saving must have gone some way toward making it worthwhile buying their own tanker.

So would be better with the chicken muck over the cow? I am going to go for the litter whatever the end result as it's rare stuff round here to be offered. We've enough 'wildlife' that would possible pick anything dead up round here...

Most folk round here keep a hold of their slurry but it would be good if I could get a hold of some that is for sure.

I am going to incorporate no matter what comes, so spray off, subsoil, muck and plough. Then chuck some N on and stand back on this reseed ground.

 

[ollie989898]

So would be better with the chicken muck over the cow? I am going to go for the litter whatever the end result as it's rare stuff round here to be offered. We've enough 'wildlife' that would possible pick anything dead up round here...

Most folk round here keep a hold of their slurry but it would be good if I could get a hold of some that is for sure.

I am going to incorporate no matter what comes, so spray off, subsoil, muck and plough. Then chuck some N on and stand back on this reseed ground.

I was under the impression you had a huge heap of FYM of your own to dipose of? As I mentioned the P and K totals in this lot, in view of the quantities involved, were pretty substantial, I didn't think you needed anything else besides that.

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

Yes we have a lot to spread but always good to have something else to use and be more flexible with the products I can apply to the ground. I will bang the FYM on and see how it goes