spreading lime - pluming over houses

[welger rp 220]

This is the machine it's a Lely no idea if it's for lime as the farmer that gave it to me only used it for spreading fertiliser which it did really well

 

[welger rp 220]

The inside auger and outer disc

 

[betweenthelines]

I think it is very difficult to find anyone who comes to anything without bringing previous opinions with them, as I posted here recently, I was talking to someone who's Phd was funded by an industrialist, but as the findings were not what they wanted to hear funding was withdrawn for the final year.

So, do you disagree with what Dan had to say then?

1. He's advancing a viewpoint not independent science based evidence
2. Being a good orator doesn't mean you are right- Farage, Foot, Benn, Hitler, Trump

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Where else could you talk about trump and a firtilizer spreader in the same room [emoji23]

 

[betweenthelines]

Careful-you might be accused of covert campaigning for Trump!

Or do Lely slip you a brown envelope on the quiet?

 

[cbell]

We have this problem and we are the "wicked householder" in this. We don't give a hoot about lime dust on house, car or windows - of course that (and smells) are part of living here - but we *do* care about its effects on my wife's National Collection of Camellias.

These are alkali-hating plants which are a crop just like the maize for which the soil is being limed, and they can be stunted or even killed by alkali. How would you feel if we did something which spread an acid dust on your fields which stunted your crops?

You probably think "poo, just flowers", not as important as farming. Well those plants are her livelihood and I think she is entitled not to have them damaged or killed.

Lime may not be poisonous or corrosive, but it can be damaging.

 

[ollie989898]

We have this problem and we are the "wicked householder" in this. We don't give a hoot about lime dust on house, car or windows - of course that (and smells) are part of living here - but we *do* care about its effects on my wife's National Collection of Camellias.

These are alkali-hating plants which are a crop just like the maize for which the soil is being limed, and they can be stunted or even killed by alkali. How would you feel if we did something which spread an acid dust on your fields which stunted your crops?

You probably think "poo, just flowers", not as important as farming. Well those plants are her livelihood and I think she is entitled not to have them damaged or killed.

Lime may not be poisonous or corrosive, but it can be damaging.

You're telling me that just the dust from liming is enough to stop someone's camellias growing?

 

[Exfarmer]

You're telling me that just the dust from liming is enough to stop someone's camellias growing?

I do have some sympathy for the poster even though they are first time

 

[davidroberts30]

We have this problem and we are the "wicked householder" in this. We don't give a hoot about lime dust on house, car or windows - of course that (and smells) are part of living here - but we *do* care about its effects on my wife's National Collection of Camellias.

These are alkali-hating plants which are a crop just like the maize for which the soil is being limed, and they can be stunted or even killed by alkali. How would you feel if we did something which spread an acid dust on your fields which stunted your crops?

You probably think "poo, just flowers", not as important as farming. Well those plants are her livelihood and I think she is entitled not to have them damaged or killed.

Lime may not be poisonous or corrosive, but it can be damaging.

you do realise how much is actually landing on your bit?

 

[roscoe erf]

I do have some sympathy for the poster even though they are first time

Joins and first post is on here makes you wonder

 

[Exfarmer]

Joins and first post is on here makes you wonder

certain plants are extremely sensitive to lime

 

[Nearly]

Time to make farmer (+ contractor) neighbour aware of the flowers in the garden and the potential effects.
The pH scale is logarithmic and it takes much more than a light covering to make any difference.
The mildly acidic rainwater will make more of an impact over a 12 month period.
Not good neighbour behavior though.

 

[ollie989898]

I do have some sympathy for the poster even though they are first time

I have sympathy- it's lime and dust at the end of the day. You don't want it drifting into people's gardens or open windows or on their washing, that is fair enough. Do it when the wind is blowing the right way or at least warn nearby residents first.

But the poster in question seems to be inferring that the stuff is more like a Chernobyl release and decimating their property. If you were that worried about it a dose of acid compost would soon rectify the piffling amount of lime that has been deposited.

It's typical townie folk, they see a spreader or a sprayer and they assume it's mustard gas being used.

 

[Exfarmer]

Time to make farmer (+ contractor) neighbour aware of the flowers in the garden and the potential effects.
The pH scale is logarithmic and it takes much more than a light covering to make any difference.
The mildly acidic rainwater will make more of an impact over a 12 month period.
Not good neighbour behavior though.

There is a difference between lime intolerance and PH
we used to be asble to grow Rhodedendrons at my last properety on a very high ph soil
but they will not survive here on a similar ph the soil is full of lime an no amount of chelated iron will cure the problem

 

[toquark]

We have this problem and we are the "wicked householder" in this. We don't give a hoot about lime dust on house, car or windows - of course that (and smells) are part of living here - but we *do* care about its effects on my wife's National Collection of Camellias.

These are alkali-hating plants which are a crop just like the maize for which the soil is being limed, and they can be stunted or even killed by alkali. How would you feel if we did something which spread an acid dust on your fields which stunted your crops?

You probably think "poo, just flowers", not as important as farming. Well those plants are her livelihood and I think she is entitled not to have them damaged or killed.

Lime may not be poisonous or corrosive, but it can be damaging.

A fairly unusual situation you must admit. Not every householder will have a national camellia collection in their garden. If they are as sensitive as you say, then it’s really incumbent on you to make your situation known to the farmer so he can give you notice of it happening. My neighbours throw a bedsheet over a rhoddie they like whenever we get lime spread. Personally I think it makes chuff all difference but each to their own.

 

[Exfarmer]

To be exact, actually most camellias are fairly lime tolerant

 

[DieselRob]

You're telling me that just the dust from liming is enough to stop someone's camellias growing?

you do realise how much is actually landing on your bit?

Joins and first post is on here makes you wonder

Typical TFF witch hunt commences

Farmers not engaging with the wider community… no surely not

 

[bobk]

Typical TFF witch hunt commences

Farmers not engaging with the wider community… no surely not

One post wonder lights light the fire then fuks off ,

 

[cbell]

I love the "throw a bedsheet" suggestion: we're talking about over 400 plants spread over about an acre!

And yes, a light dusting won't kill a mature plant but it wreaks havoc with young ones, especially those which are already struggling (a national collection, by definition, contains plants that are hard to grow in this country).

We're no urban "oh the countryside should be a theme park" types, in fact both of us are children of farmers and we know how hard it is. I just want to point out that what a lot of people seem to think is a harmless cloud of lime dust can in fact have negative consequences.

I'm only on this forum today because I was chatting with our farmer neighbour who is ploughing the field next to us for maize. He mentioned that he would be liming soon and I pleaded with him to do it when there was no wind. (Wind blowing the other way is not possible because that is a fast main road and a lime cloud there could cause a fatal crash. Lime clouds may not be toxic, but they might still be fatal.)

I was searching for solutions and came across this forum where, I'll admit, the "We're right and they are wrong" nature of the debate rather annoyed me so I thought I'd post the other side of the story.

Ultimately we all have to get along together, so if anyone knows a not-too-expensive alternative to spraying powdered limestone around which I could propose as an alternative please say so.

 

[Highland Mule]

I love the "throw a bedsheet" suggestion: we're talking about over 400 plants spread over about an acre!

And yes, a light dusting won't kill a mature plant but it wreaks havoc with young ones, especially those which are already struggling (a national collection, by definition, contains plants that are hard to grow in this country).

We're no urban "oh the countryside should be a theme park" types, in fact both of us are children of farmers and we know how hard it is. I just want to point out that what a lot of people seem to think is a harmless cloud of lime dust can in fact have negative consequences.

I'm only on this forum today because I was chatting with our farmer neighbour who is ploughing the field next to us for maize. He mentioned that he would be liming soon and I pleaded with him to do it when there was no wind. (Wind blowing the other way is not possible because that is a fast main road and a lime cloud there could cause a fatal crash. Lime clouds may not be toxic, but they might still be fatal.)

I was searching for solutions and came across this forum where, I'll admit, the "We're right and they are wrong" nature of the debate rather annoyed me so I thought I'd post the other side of the story.

Ultimately we all have to get along together, so if anyone knows a not-too-expensive alternative to spraying powdered limestone around which I could propose as an alternative please say so.

Im sure if you funded it the farmer could do that part with granular, which doesn’t drift.