Spring barley 2020

[Hereward]

Is it worth growing, the sense is every man and his dog is putting loads in, but the I read online many have drilled up with WW, driving through Suffolf the other day and there's lots more WW in than around Peterborough so is it worth it?

Is there any seed?

How much is seed???

 

[T Hectares]

No, not worth it, leave it to us Chalk Downland boys who regularly grow it






Or alternatively...
Can you grow SB reliably ?
If so, can you make a margin @ £130/t ? ( that’s what I could sell feed Barley for Nov ‘20 earlier this week )
If no to the above don’t bother !!

Seed supply ok at the moment here but changing rapidly, can’t help on price as mine is all FSS

 

[Adeptandy]

Price is around £450/t

 

[Chae1]

I heard seed was £500/t

I wouldn't bother, just put in a cover crop or leave it fallow.

 

[SilliamWhale]

I can't decide in a few fields whether to do spring barley or spring beans.

Beans could be contracted for £20 t above wheat plus HC bonus. Could be £200 and barley could be £130 or less

 

[Flat 10]

Is it worth growing, the sense is every man and his dog is putting loads in, but the I read online many have drilled up with WW, driving through Suffolf the other day and there's lots more WW in than around Peterborough so is it worth it?

Is there any seed?

How much is seed???

I know a sb seed grower with 100s of tonnes of a popular variety in the shed. Can’t understand why the processor hasn’t moved it. It will all be needed surely

 

[Gong Farmer]

I can't decide in a few fields whether to do spring barley or spring beans.

Beans could be contracted for £20 t above wheat plus HC bonus. Could be £200 and barley could be £130 or less

You'd still likely get 50% more t/ha off s.barley than beans, which I reckon makes them comparable at best. Beans more prone to a disaster though.

 

[Gong Farmer]

Is it worth growing, the sense is every man and his dog is putting loads in, but the I read online many have drilled up with WW, driving through Suffolf the other day and there's lots more WW in than around Peterborough so is it worth it?

Is there any seed?

How much is seed???

It's the easiest and most reliable of the spring crop options, can't guarantee you'll make any money from it though.

 

[Hereward]

Seed ordered

 

[teslacoils]

Land here is worked already.
Rent is paid already.
Drill yoked on already.
Got fss in heap already.
Digestate booked already.
Probably got enough fungicide in shed for a basic program already.

So the only real cost is getting someone in to cut it. That being said, I'm leaning towards oats instead.

 

[Hereward]

Price is around £450/t

Bought some Planet with SPD for £420/t.

As with @teslacoils have sprays in stock and will grow it on a budget so we hopefully are on the way up on the cost/returns curve.

 

[Flat 10]

Bought some Planet with SPD for £420/t.

As with @teslacoils have sprays in stock and will grow it on a budget so we hopefully are on the way up on the cost/returns curve.

That’s not unreasonable really?

 

[Hereward]

That’s not unreasonable really?

No I feared it might start with a '5'.

But it appears a lot have got WW in and more besides to capitalise on the anticipated reduced area of WW

 

[ajd132]

Depends if you have an agronomist putting some ridiculously expensive herbicide and fungicide program on. We know we can grow 7t/ha with 100kgs N and a fungicide.
I know people with serviced agronomy who will do 150kg n, avadex flufenacet herb stack and 2/3 expensive fungicides and get less yield.
don’t let yourself be a slave to the supply trade and it can be profitable.
Personally I don’t understand how an agronomist can even justify their fee on spring crops, 90% of it is down to good establishment and the weather!

 

[bankrupt]

No, not worth it, leave it to us Chalk Downland boys who regularly grow it

 

[CJS]

Depends if you have an agronomist putting some ridiculously expensive herbicide and fungicide program on. We know we can grow 7t/ha with 100kgs N and a fungicide.
I know people with serviced agronomy who will do 150kg n, avadex flufenacet herb stack and 2/3 expensive fungicides and get less yield.
don’t let yourself be a slave to the supply trade and it can be profitable.
Personally I don’t understand how an agronomist can even justify their fee on spring crops, 90% of it is down to good establishment and the weather!

My neighbour drills in April seed off heap cheap weed killer one cheap fungercide 120kg n averaged 3.7 tons an acre over the past 3years

 

[teslacoils]

Anything but a blw spray and perhaps some wild oat control is a bit of a waste of time I'm my opinion. I like giving it some pgr though, and something like a generic starane / cheapy su.

 

[bankrupt]

a lot have got WW in and more besides to capitalise on the anticipated reduced area of WW

Good news, all round, because their recent busyness will substantially have reduced the total tonnage of the 2020 UK cereal crop.

 

[ajd132]

My neighbour drills in April seed off heap cheap weed killer one cheap fungercide 120kg n averaged 3.7 tons an acre over the past 3years

Exactly, spring cereals need a different mindset to input heavy winter wheat

 

[Farmer Fin]

Anything but a blw spray and perhaps some wild oat control is a bit of a waste of time I'm my opinion. I like giving it some pgr though, and something like a generic starane / cheapy su.

Are wild oats an issue? Can you now just walk it? Not like you are going to have anything else to do all summer. As for PGR majority of ours doesn’t get any.