Spring barley BLW control and rates

[woodylane]

So basically everyone’s posting their “using it up mix” as if it’s a standard spring weed control mix

 

[Phil P]

An excellent mix if you have a wide range of BLW’s, I’d call it “The Moss mix”

Not done any spring barley yet but last years “Moss mix” was -
200 ml/ha Arma
32g/ha Ally Max
0.75l/ha Minstrel
It did a good job on cleaning it up.

 

[Birchfarmer]

What’s the 0.4l of compitox plus for?

Fat hen

 

[Northern territory]

75 g/ha avro plus cmpp or Agritox 1-1.5 l/ha usually. I would say Pixarro was only worth it if you had resistant poppy or chickweed. Cleavers you would put starane in.

 

[Tractor Boy]

I’ve never tried it but someone on here swore by 15g ally, 0.5starane and 0.5mcpa for small weeds

Yes, but that is actually sensible rates. It’s pretty much half rate of each.

 

[Northern territory]

Yes, but that is actually sensible rates. It’s pretty much half rate of each.

Half rates of su’s can be risky

 

[robbie]

Half rates of su’s can be risky

Even if they're mixed with Chems that have a different mode of action????

 

[Northern territory]

Even if they're mixed with Chems that have a different mode of action????

Yes but hormones won’t kill the full spectrum

 

[robbie]

Yes but hormones won’t kill the full spectrum

Good point

 

[Northern territory]

Good point

They are such good products and relatively cheap it’s not worth the risk in my opinion, especially with bigger weeds.

 

[RAF]

Presite sx
Pixxaro
Tempo
Fandango
Arizona
Might Chuck some bravo in to use it up .

 

[Northern territory]

Presite sx
Pixxaro
Tempo
Fandango
Arizona
Might Chuck some bravo in to use it up .

I am finding it hard to figure why people are chucking Pixarro with an su, wouldn’t you use it stand alone for poppy, chickweed.

 

[RAF]

Just do as I am told seams a lot to me as well

 

[Zippy768]

Presite sx
Pixxaro
Tempo
Fandango
Arizona
Might Chuck some bravo in to use it up .

what a great joke you just told us all. Of course you dont have any bravo about

 

[robbie]

Presite sx
Pixxaro
Tempo
Fandango
Arizona
Might Chuck some bravo in to use it up .

I see your auto correct is playing up, you obviously wrote manganese and it wrongly auto corrected it

 

[Northern territory]

Just do as I am told seams a lot to me as well

It useful for su resistant weeds like poppy but never found it much good on polygonums. Su, hormone is my choice, only cleavers would get through that.

 

[robbie]

I am finding it hard to figure why people are chucking Pixarro with an su, wouldn’t you use it stand alone for poppy, chickweed.

To avoid resistance in poppies and chickweed perhaps or to control poppys and chickweed already resistant to su???

 

[Northern territory]

To avoid resistance in poppies and chickweed perhaps or to control poppys and chickweed already resistant to su???

Yep, I know there was quite a bit in Scotland because they had used su’s forever on mainly spring barley year after year.

 

[robbie]

It scares me that some people use just a SU on its own year after year also I'm finding I'm having to use more ally/hiatus type SUs in all cereals to tidy up BLWs. In the olden days when I could use ipu/ctu that did for all BLW and the only crop that got an SU was spring barley one in 3 or 4 year in the rotation.

Has anyone got any ideas on a broad spectrum BLW spray for spring barley that avoids SU so rape can be established without worrying about residues.

 

[Northern territory]

It scares me that some people use just a SU on its own year after year also I'm finding I'm having to use more ally/hiatus type SUs in all cereals to tidy up BLWs. In the olden days when I could use ipu/ctu that did for all BLW and the only crop that got an SU was spring barley one in 3 or 4 year in the rotation.

Has anyone got any ideas on a broad spectrum BLW spray for spring barley that avoids SU so rape can be established without worrying about residues.

Would pendimethelin pre-Em be an option