Spring Barley drill date

[Sonoftheheir]

I will be on 300 plus on non stewardship barley

We planted Irina at 160kg/ha last wk?

It’s showing today and the crows and pigeons have found it.

 

[Flat 10]

We planted Irina at 160kg/ha last wk?

It’s showing today and the crows and pigeons have found it.

Bit low but you need lower rates on black. I was at over 200 3 weeks ago.

 

[yellow belly]

We planted Irina at 160kg/ha last wk?

It’s showing today and the crows and pigeons have found it.

1000 Seed weight
How many seeds barley needs enough heads for yield
770 is the benchmark according to hgca
In spring barley later planted not all seeds will have 2 tillers

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Oh? First time we’ve grown it. Might be a bit thin then, we’ll see.

I did ask a couple of local agronomists about what rate to use.

It certainly came up quick!

 

[Brisel]

have you managed to get another claydon in as a 2 nd drill ?

No. A power harrow combi to follow 2 days after the 5 furrow plough I kept for years like this! It is working land that would be another 2 weeks before being fit to Claydon.

 

[willy]

No. A power harrow combi to follow 2 days after the 5 furrow plough I kept for years like this! It is working land that would be another 2 weeks before being fit to Claydon.

Do you ever think maybe it was easier on the old system?

 

[Brisel]

Do you ever think maybe it was easier on the old system?

Not really

I don’t have the time or resources to go back to widespread min till and spring ploughing. Just staying flexible at the moment. Or trying to. The Claydon is doing a great job on the lighter ground but it wouldn’t do a good enough job on the heavy stuff with so little time.

 

[willy]

Not really

I don’t have the time or resources to go back to widespread min till and spring ploughing. Just staying flexible at the moment. Or trying to. The Claydon is doing a great job on the lighter ground but it wouldn’t do a good enough job on the heavy stuff with so little time.

I agree but having been there and done that quite successfully, I can also see that maybe we weren’t saving quite as much as I thought for a lot more ball ache and having a pre prepared seed bed ready to go when is worth a lot sometimes.

I love the principle and the practical but add that into a productive high output rotation it all adds up differently. You have to try these things though

 

[warksfarmer]

Looks good, is that a combi drill?

That’s a lot of seed, are you using the same principle as you do for rape?

Yes very old combi drill that owes us nothing.

High seed rates all the time for the last few years. Wheat 250kg +, sbarley 300kg +, slinseed 80kg +, wosr 12kg +, swheat 400kg +. All farm saved. Some cleaned/dressed and some not.

 

[warksfarmer]

I agree but having been there and done that quite successfully, I can also see that maybe we weren’t saving quite as much as I thought for a lot more ball ache and having a pre prepared seed bed ready to go when is worth a lot sometimes.

I love the principle and the practical but add that into a productive high output rotation it all adds up differently. You have to try these things though

I used to think like that but the last few days have concentrated my mind a bit. We bought a 2nd hand plough for a specific reason of using it for 3 years in a 3 stage attack on grassweeds. We are ploughing deep for the first use at 14 inches so I appreciate that’s not the norm but we are using 22l/ha covering around 1ha/hr.

The combi drill is using 23l/ha covering just over 1ha/hr.

Vario tractor that so far in 4 years of use has averaged 12.8l/hr across all jobs but by ploughing and combi drilling we are without doubt spending a lot more than previously. Assuming we roll these crops to bed our fuel use to establish will be around £23/ha. The more normal no till approach would be £3.80/ha. Admittedly that’s largely because the no till drill is 6m wide covering 4ha/hour where as the combi drill is 4m wide only covering 1ha/hr but never less it’s a big difference in cost.

 

[warksfarmer]

Flippin’ heck! 325kg? Why so?

Beats grassweeds.

 

[SilliamWhale]

I agree but having been there and done that quite successfully, I can also see that maybe we weren’t saving quite as much as I thought for a lot more ball ache and having a pre prepared seed bed ready to go when is worth a lot sometimes.

I love the principle and the practical but add that into a productive high output rotation it all adds up differently. You have to try these things though

Horses for courses etc. but I've always found exactly the opposite. I can get on a drill way faster than the ploughing neighbours. Land always drys from the top

 

[devon6400]

is anyone waiting until next week to go? I'm suppose to Portugal on sunday until Wednesday. but am wondering if I shouldn't go. tried ploughing it yesterday but it still to wet (heavy ground). will plough on sat. been ploughing my maize ground over the weekend and had to parrow harrow yesterday to keep the moisture in!!! maize drill coming on sat now

 

[Longneck]

Well I’ve got this on demo today so I’m doing a bit but still wet in places and pretty snotty underneath but given the conditions it’s going ok....

.....we’ll see how it turns out!!

 

[Tractor Boy]

Well I’ve got this on demo today so I’m doing a bit but still wet in places and pretty snotty underneath but given the conditions it’s going ok....
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.....we’ll see how it turns out!!

Whereabouts are you roughly?

 

[scholland]

Progress here, first try of Laureate, looking forward to seeing how it does.

 

[Zippy768]

is anyone waiting until next week to go? I'm suppose to Portugal on sunday until Wednesday. but am wondering if I shouldn't go. tried ploughing it yesterday but it still to wet (heavy ground). will plough on sat. been ploughing my maize ground over the weekend and had to parrow harrow yesterday to keep the moisture in!!! maize drill coming on sat now

I'm not "waiting" as such til next week but heavy is still too wet. It will be next week before we have anything drill I suspect.
How much do you have to drill?

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Amazing how fast SB grows, we planted a week ago and it’s 2” high now. 2 days ago it was just poking through, now like a green carpet.

Edit: Sown 2 weeks ago!

 

[Wombat]

Should go tomorrow, will be a bit knarly but will bump the rate up a chunk. Worried if it turns wet I won't get it so it's off in

 

[Longneck]

Whereabouts are you roughly?

East Northants