Spring barley varieties tillering rate

[DanniAgro]

Does anyone have experience of the different tillering rates of the main varieties on the market? Is there any real difference? I'm thinking of varieties like Planet, Diablo and Cosmopolitan.
Any help gratefully received in order to fill in my ignorance, having not grown it since 2013!

 

[DanniAgro]

The only thing I've learnt so far is that Planet has a higher recommended seed rate than most others, so I'll not be growing any, as this suggests a lower tillering rate than average.

 

[Farmer Fin]

Diablo tillers well. 350-400 seeds was the recommendation last year. Can’t comment on the others.

 

[Brisel]

I'd look at your market for the grain - a few extra premiums will outweigh a bit of extra seed many times over. Planet has a big market. For smaller markets, a few extra tonnes will have a much bigger impact on premiums, especially if you don't hit the required N spec.

I should add that Planet is an awful variety with no market, since it's a large % of my area, along with Laureate!

 

[DanniAgro]

The thing that I was concerned about was cobbly seedbeds in the rougher parts of my fields - I know that from my experience with winter wheat, where a good tillering variety like Robigus after maize would tiller freely if areas of the field had a lower emergence. This has occurred many times over the years, and I assume the the same applies to spring barley.
The crop is being grown only for feed, as the chance of it making malting grade is low, and anyway the premium will probably be poor this year because most barns will be full of it this year.
Sorry to hear that you've got a lot of a variety that doesn't promise much, as purely by chance I've chosen Diablo and Cosmopolitan - will let you know if they're rubbish as well in September!

 

[T Hectares]

I'd look at your market for the grain - a few extra premiums will outweigh a bit of extra seed many times over. Planet has a big market. For smaller markets, a few extra tonnes will have a much bigger impact on premiums, especially if you don't hit the required N spec.

I should add that Planet is an awful variety with no market, since it's a large % of my area, along with Laureate!

I'd also add that Spring Barley in general is an awful crop, best not grow any at all imo

 

[DanniAgro]

I'd also add that Spring Barley in general is an awful crop, best not grow any at all imo

Don't say that, I decided not to risk any spring rape after reading the thread on this forum!

 

[T Hectares]

Don't say that, I decided not to risk any spring rape after reading the thread on this forum!

My god, you’d do nothing if you believed everything on this place !!

 

[ajd132]

I would stick with planet then you will have seed to save to grow for malting next year. It’s a good proven variety. I have heard Diablo is good too but hasn’t got malting approval yet?

 

[Brisel]

I think Diablo has a market in Scotland.

 

[Farmer Fin]

I think Diablo has a market in Scotland.

Yep, but it has to be grown up here as well ?You boys stick to your planet.

 

[DanniAgro]

My god, you’d do nothing if you believed everything on this place !!

I don't, torn between the different opinions on this damned site!

 

[Seed&Grain]

Diablo has distilling approval and the breeder is hopeful that it will get brewing approval in May. Planet and Laureate seed is getting short in supply and the price reflects this. Diablo and Cosmopolitan yield better, there is more seed available and the price is approx. £30.00 a tonne cheaper. As has been said above Planet is the widest grown and unless you are on very light land or can generally get low Ns the variety that is least risky to grow for Malting. Laureate is a dual purpose variety, which offers growers higher premiums for sub 1.65N but with the protection of fall backs to 1.85n.

 

[Chae1]

Some maltsters up here won't accept Diablo. One of my merchants refusing to take it.

 

[Sandy]

Some maltsters up here won't accept Diablo. One of my merchants refusing to take it.

We tried it last year very poor germination compared to anything else

 

[Chae1]

We tried it last year very poor germination compared to anything else

I was worried seed i kept would have germination issues, but still above 90%

 

[DanniAgro]

What do you all think about the prospects for malting premium, given that it will be filling half the barns in the country by September? I wouldn't give high chances for reasonable premiums.

 

[Farmer Fin]

We tried it last year very poor germination compared to anything else

Think it was very much local variation. We had no problems with germination, but it did skin a bit. It was still our best payer.

 

[robbie]

What do you all think about the prospects for malting premium, given that it will be filling half the barns in the country by September? I wouldn't give high chances for reasonable premiums.

I'd say premiums will be very poor because theres a lot TO go in but non of it has gone in yet and it's not looking like it will for a few weeks yet so theres the possibility the premium could be huge for anyone who can get some in if the weather stays as it is.

Personally I've said sod the malsters I'll be chucking a bit extra N on mine and hope for a bit extra yield of feed grain.

 

[Sandy]

I was worried seed i kept would have germination issues, but still above 90%

The Diablo seed is being fed at the moment didn’t yield any more but 4days later