Spring drilling 2021

solo

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Location
worcestershire
When I took over back in the early 1990’s we used to do mop, tsp and n. Once the staff left I simplified it and mostly use 25-0-13+7 sulphur, along with double top on the osr. It has slowly built up the k indices into the 2‘s from 1’s. P have dropped from 4+ to 3+ on average over the last 25 years. I do average 2-3t/ acre of fym each year which helps too. Finished topping up the spring barley today and started the final dose on wheat.
 

ajd132

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Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
We have had soils in no till for a while now, did some tests recently that included legeacy/available phosphate. The longer term no till soils are starting to release the decent amounts of locked up P.
throwing around stuff like tsp is pissing money down the road. Locked up within days. You need the biology to be working to release it.
 

Spencer

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Location
North West
Five miles off the centre of Canada. Manitoba. It’s a roller coaster for weather here but when Mother Nature is in a good mood it’s a fantastic place to farm. Flatter than you can imagine and not a hill for an hours drive in any direction. Jet black heavy clay that’s super sticky.
Lets see a picture of your drilling rig..?
 

robbie

Member
BASIS
I'm sure I started a thread on here last year, but can't find it, nor remember the replies.......

Spring barley. Half the fert went in the seedbed. What to do about the rest, given no rain forecast for the rest of the month.
Slap it all on anyway.
Little and often,
Wait for proper rain, even if it doesn't arrive till mid May ?
I'm going more toward nearly all or all the fert on post drilling now for spring crops as the springs were getting are too dry.
My early drilled barley had all its N 90units a fortnight post drilling when I had the spinner on for wheat and today I've just put 100 units onto barley and triticle which is just emerging as it's been dry and too windy up to now and they forcast showers which we've had and has melted the prills, the trit will get some more later as AN.
 

T Hectares

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
Since I’ve used Urea on SB I’ve always put it on pre-drilling as we’ve had a run of dry springs
Then just 30% to go on post drilling as AS (26/35) which went on Monday after the weekends showers and is now dissolved

Snooze you loose with SB !!
 
We have had soils in no till for a while now, did some tests recently that included legeacy/available phosphate. The longer term no till soils are starting to release the decent amounts of locked up P.
throwing around stuff like tsp is pissing money down the road. Locked up within days. You need the biology to be working to release it.

I wonder if its not that the P gets "released" as such or more that the cycling of the existing P via root hairs, bugs etc remains efficient as compared to when we cultivate away all those situation - ie the act of getting P into the plant fundamentally needs a biologically active conduit.

That said if my soil test tells me I need P I will put it on whether it is artificial, muck or fibrophos because I'm still exporting some P in my farming system. I know it may be old fashioned but I still value basic soil indices to give me my building blocks
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
I wonder if its not that the P gets "released" as such or more that the cycling of the existing P via root hairs, bugs etc remains efficient as compared to when we cultivate away all those situation - ie the act of getting P into the plant fundamentally needs a biologically active conduit.

That said if my soil test tells me I need P I will put it on whether it is artificial, muck or fibrophos because I'm still exporting some P in my farming system. I know it may be old fashioned but I still value basic soil indices to give me my building blocks
yes could be that
 

EddieB

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Staffs
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Putting in some AB9 this afternoon.
 

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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