Spring Oat drilling rates

[chipchap]

I grew seed last in the past, like most seed crops by the time you have spent more on C1 seed and additional inputs required to keep them tip-tip the margin was never any better than a commercial crop but with much greater risk

Wild oats are a pretty easy and cheap weed to control these days in most crops

Oats is the only crop I grow for seed these days. I agree wheat and barley really are a waste of time. Oats on the other hand have to have zero wild oats on inspection, and land that can do that is hard to find, and the premiums reflects that.
Grown Canyon the last few years, and find it yields better than Firth in my system.

 

[billboy 1]

Been offered some canyon seed would you say this is a good starter variety as am a complete novice with this crop ?

 

[chipchap]

Been offered some canyon seed would you say this is a good starter variety as am a complete novice with this crop ?

you'll be fine with Canyon.
Not sure what seed rate to recommend mind!

 

[beltbreaker]

Growing Canyon and Aspen here, 350 seeds/m2 I find a lower seedrate sown early (for here) compensates and gives a good yield (3t+) also gives increased bushel wt come harvest.

Grown Canyon for 4? years good variety can go flat with too much sh1t and fert but yield increase over Firth compensates most years. Been very clean. Firth is a bombproof starter variety round here. Not sure what the score is on Aspen.

Cheers BB

 

[billboy 1]

Is oat straw worth anymore (or less) than wheat straw ?

 

[beefandsleep]

Is oat straw worth anymore (or less) than wheat straw ?

In my opinion no, it should be worth less. It is waxy and less absorbent than wheat straw so is not so good for bedding.

 

[ridger]

I sowed firth last year at 250 kg/ha, but lost patience waiting for it to ripen in mid September so it went into silo as wholecrop. Lovely crop though. How much nitrogen usually? I had on 50 units to acre

 

[billboy 1]

Ok got seed now with tgw of 40 got enough seed for 1.5 cwt/ a will that give adequate seeds / meter , also did some one say put N in seed bed or leave till up and away and how many units/a apologies for 20 questions as I say complete novice with oats (apart from wild ones [emoji3])

 

[Happy]

Ok got seed now with tgw of 40 got enough seed for 1.5 cwt/ a will that give adequate seeds / meter , also did some one say put N in seed bed or leave till up and away and how many units/a apologies for 20 questions as I say complete novice with oats (apart from wild ones [emoji3])

1.5 cwt acre will be too thick. At tgw of 40 that works out at over 450 seeds m2. Likely to get high screening and increased chance of lodging at that rate.

I'd got for 1.25cwt/acre in your money. That will give you around 385 seeds m2 which will be plenty.

 

[chipchap]

One cwt to the acre is plenty if you put them in tidy. You will get less straw, but less likely to go flat as well. Too much seed will lead to a crap sample with low bushel and high screenings.

 

[texelburger]

In my opinion no, it should be worth less. It is waxy and less absorbent than wheat straw so is not so good for bedding.

Agree if its winter oat straw,but find spring oat straw finer,softer and less waxy.Good for litter ,we find.

 

[billboy 1]

1.5 cwt acre will be too thick. At tgw of 40 that works out at over 450 seeds m2. Likely to get high screening and increased chance of lodging at that rate.

I'd got for 1.25cwt/acre in your money. That will give you around 385 seeds m2 which will be plenty.

Ok thanks for that says 40 on ticket but 44 written on bag is that about right for tgw on oats ?

 

[ridger]

I put on 2 cwt to acre one year and had a nice thick crop, sowed mid may

 

[billboy 1]

What's the latest you can drill them and would you up seed rate at end of April compared to beginning April ?

 

[Wjb7030]

How much kg/ha N are you lot putting on your oats

 

[dontknowanything]

How much kg/ha N are you lot putting on your oats

We've put 96kg on ours, just coming up nicely now.

 

[Wjb7030]

Is that continuous cereals???

 

[dontknowanything]

Is that continuous cereals???

Me? no

 

[Wjb7030]

Me? no

What is previous crop??? What about after grass??

 

[dontknowanything]

What is previous crop??? What about after grass??

This was after wheat, but before that OSR, then wheat, peas etc.