Spring oats

[franklin]

Possibly also land type. Wheat after oats would not be usual here as they are normally followed by another break crop.

 

[Longneck]

I have chopped the straw last few years but always needs liquid sunshine then dd rape into it. Had some cracking crops of rape after oats.

 

[juke]

Possibly also land type. Wheat after oats would not be usual here as they are normally followed by another break crop.

I think most folk round here growing oats put the fields back to a first wheat,

 

[franklin]

I'm growing them to spread things out and grow wheat less frequently. One in 5 would be best for me.

 

[Farma Parma]

I think most folk round here growing oats put the fields back to a first wheat,

Well thats what ive done for easily the last 10years & get on fine no bother me & combine man do comment how good the 1st wheats are where Oats have been previously Spring or Winter it doesnt make much difference but certainly chopping the Oat straw does..

 

[phil]

Well thats what ive done for easily the last 10years & get on fine no bother me & combine man do comment how good the 1st wheats are where Oats have been previously Spring or Winter it doesnt make much difference but certainly chopping the Oat straw does..

Land in good biological fettle doesn't seem to mind chopped oaten straw

I find the acidic nature of chopped straw is only an issue where pH is also low
Barley seems to tolerate this better than wheat

 

[Farma Parma]

Land in good biological fettle doesn't seem to mind chopped oaten straw

I find the acidic nature of chopped straw is only an issue where pH is also low
Barley seems to tolerate this better than wheat

Its something like that !!
Chopping Barley straw is never gonna happen here thankfully its in hot demand !!!

 

[juke]

Well thats what ive done for easily the last 10years & get on fine no bother me & combine man do comment how good the 1st wheats are where Oats have been previously Spring or Winter it doesnt make much difference but certainly chopping the Oat straw does..

It will make a difference if you plough all that chopped straw under n create that toxic layer for the roots to go into. I'd rather have some weed suppression on the top in-between the rows and feed the soil biology and worms, than create an environment that stops roots getting to where they need to be... Like I said before each to there own

 

[E_B]

A lot of our wheat is after winter oats. In the last couple of years, its been strip tilled straight into the oat stubble. Straw removed though. Last year's was yellow a lot of the winter, presumably the oats had scavenged all the N leaving not much for the wheat. It was also on very stiff ground, which was sodden all winter. This year it all looks well so far.

 

[wellingtonfarmer]

A lot of our wheat is after winter oats. In the last couple of years, its been strip tilled straight into the oat stubble. Straw removed though. Last year's was yellow a lot of the winter, presumably the oats had scavenged all the N leaving not much for the wheat. It was also on very stiff ground, which was sodden all winter. This year it all looks well so far.

Wheat after oats look good? Am I right in thinking you use a mzuri? Have you ever tried going into chopped pay straw.

Off to lamma on Thursday to have a good look at mzuri! Very interested in it.

 

[Farma Parma]

It will make a difference if you plough all that chopped straw under n create that toxic layer for the roots to go into. I'd rather have some weed suppression on the top in-between the rows and feed the soil biology and worms, than create an environment that stops roots getting to where they need to be... Like I said before each to there own

No issues on heavier stuff here anyways you cant put enuff organic material type stuff back...
Using lots of Cattle Muck now into seedbeds & you can see the benefits pretty quick
Hen Muck helps also

 

[Chae1]

You get more SUN than us folks further North !!! hehee we have to use The Liquid Sun

You aren't that far north! Get more sun/longer days further north.

 

[Renaultman]

S Oats up here.
Firth
Canyon
Aspen

W Oats
Gerald
Dalguise

No Mascani? Not sure it out yields Gerald and Dalguise but lovely sample and millers love them. Got of keep them thin and hungry though much like Gerald

 

[Renaultman]

Even after some sun-in-a-can, chances are it wont bale behind the combine. Ted it out behind the combine and look at it again in a week. Clear it and get it ploughed. Always ploughs nice after oats. Under *no* circumstances chop the straw and incorporate.

Wish you had posted that last year

 

[Farma Parma]

No Mascani? Not sure it out yields Gerald and Dalguise but lovely sample and millers love them. Got of keep them thin and hungry though much like Gerald

Just picked the rec list off what our grain coop advises as they have markets to sell there preferred varieties to you see

 

[Farma Parma]

Wish you had posted that last year

99.9% can't bale behind any combine here.
Need sum sun & wind after its cut

 

[bobk]

99.9% can't bale behind any combine here.
Need sum sun & wind after its cut

How much , a week ?

 

[Renaultman]

Just picked the rec list off what our grain coop advises as they have markets to sell there preferred varieties to you see

Is Mascani not on it? Quaker and Morning foods love them.

 

[Renaultman]

How much , a week ?

At the very least 4 days. Oat straw is terrible for clapping.

 

[franklin]

2 years ago we cut spring oats on 14th August. Finished baling on 14th September.

It doesnt dry well in the swath. We will run the tedder behind the combine this year. Grain is fit so much earlier than the straw is. There is exactly nil demand for oat straw in the swath, but conventional bales are the bees-knees.

To be fair, not much will bale behind the combine if we are cutting in August.