Spring wheat

[db9go]

What a difference in one year drilled the same date 4th of march Mulika spring wheat and the date of the photo is the same 8th of May

 

[Brisel]

Nice.

Most of my spring wheat was sown in early April - it was all supposed to be winter wheat but the rain shut us out until mid March.

 

[db9go]

Nice.

Most of my spring wheat was sown in early April - it was all supposed to be winter wheat but the rain shut us out until mid March.

That is what ours should be.
I am coming to the conclusion its best to set it up in Autumn and do nothing to it until early March and drill in to a stale seed bed with out moving any soil.
All this has had since combing is once over with a Carrier and sprayed of Twice last Autumn.
Drilled in to clean seed bed.
I am still waiting for the weeds to grow.

 

[MrNoo]

That is what ours should be.
I am coming to the conclusion its best to set it up in Autumn and do nothing to it until early March and drill in to a stale seed bed with out moving any soil.
All this has had since combing is once over with a Carrier and sprayed of Twice last Autumn.
Drilled in to clean seed bed.
I am still waiting for the weeds to grow.

That's exactly what I do here with it except drill with a Vaddy and use a subdisc in Autumn

 

[db9go]

That's exactly what I do here with it except drill with a Vaddy and use a subdisc in Autumn

We use a vady but it is only the drilling part in three rows it was a new drill last year and it was bought just to drill corn and nothing ells and it fly's

 

[7610 super q]

Shhhhuuuussssssssshhhhh.

Loose lips sink ships.

 

[Brisel]

That is what ours should be.
I am coming to the conclusion its best to set it up in Autumn and do nothing to it until early March and drill in to a stale seed bed with out moving any soil.
All this has had since combing is once over with a Carrier and sprayed of Twice last Autumn.
Drilled in to clean seed bed.
I am still waiting for the weeds to grow.

What is the soil structure like underneath? That’s a long time with minimal disturbance and no green cover.

 

[tr250]

What a difference in one year drilled the same date 4th of march Mulika spring wheat and the date of the photo is the same 8th of May

I can’t quite understand why it’s like this we are in the next county and ours was probably better last year on this date. I’m really pleased with it this year but it’s just slower with the cold weather. Pic is last years on the 12th may I will try and get one today of this years for comparison

 

[db9go]

What is the soil structure like underneath? That’s a long time with minimal disturbance and no green cover.

The soil structure is good and the field is in continues wheat as that is all we do now for a long time if i told you how long nobody will believe us as we will have all nay Sayers saying nasty things

 

[tr250]

The soil structure is good and the field is in continues wheat as that is all we do now for a long time if i told you how long nobody will believe us as we will have all nay Sayers saying nasty things

Continuous spring wheat?

 

[Spencer]

if i told you how long nobody will believe us

Oh go on..??

 

[Brisel]

The soil structure is good and the field is in continues wheat as that is all we do now for a long time if i told you how long nobody will believe us as we will have all nay Sayers saying nasty things

Oooohh - so sensitive!

I have one field of continuous wheat that is also currently spring wheat. It's not a mass of black grass. So what if that's some people's idea of a ticket to Hell? No dodgy break crops you wish you'd never bothered with but you grow for the sake of that hallowed First Wheat afterwards, you're through the take all barrier and with occasional spring crops, no grass weed burden.

Carry on!

 

[db9go]

Oooohh - so sensitive!

I have one field of continuous wheat that is also currently spring wheat. It's not a mass of black grass. So what if that's some people's idea of a ticket to Hell? No dodgy break crops you wish you'd never bothered with but you grow for the sake of that hallowed First Wheat afterwards, you're through the take all barrier and with occasional spring crops, no grass weed burden.

Carry on!

There is about 120 acres that has been in white straw since WW11 we can show 40+ years of cont wheat

 

[snarling bee]

I grow continuous wheat, plenty of it now after the demise of OSR. Best rotation there is. Historically I have had more breakdown to blackgrass with a normal rotation that with continuous wheat.

 

[snarling bee]

Last year continuous WW did 7.94 t/ha, average price just under £200 with Grp 1 spec, what's not to like.
Spring wheat which was all second or continuous averaged 6.5 t/ha, only lost milling spec on some as rain stuffed the hagberg.
Why accept £50 tonne less for barley, or 3.5t/ha beans at the same price as wheat. N requirement for spring wheat offset by herbicide cost for beans, only 'Ally' required on spring cereals.
I accept wheat is not always £200, but year on year for 30 years the continuous wheat fields have a far better gross margin that anything in a rotation.
BUT we rarely see take-all in second wheats due to our high pH and clay soils. Lighter land would be completely different.