Springs or bogies?

[Boohoo]

Ordered a new 14ft long, 9 ton dropside tipping trailer today and been given the option of sprung or bogie axles. Not getting a sprung drawbar and was going for sprung axles but the trailer manufacturer says bogie axles are better on that size of trailer. The trailer will only have basic sides, no grain or silage sides, will be on 6 stud axles with 400/60-15.5 tyres and will have a 4ft bale extension.
What axles would you go for with workload split equally between road and field?

 

[James]

Have a similar sized Kane on bogies and at times carting bales it would be nice to have springs.

 

[multi power]

I'd go for bogies, but spring drawbar
I'd only go for springs on axles if tipping on flat smooth surfaces

 

[essexpete]

How much to add the sprung drawbar?
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[Farmer_Joe]

not been funny but you can pick trailer like that up at sales for next to nothing, there tonnes at york ever time i go, i got a rough ish 2001 triffit 14 tonner with sprung drawbar proper commercial axles for 1650

 

[Boohoo]

How much to add the sprung drawbar?
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I haven't priced it, trying to keep the floor height down and the cost down. Is a sprung drawbar of any benefit on a trailer that length?

 

[Boohoo]

not been funny but you can pick trailer like that up at sales for next to nothing, there tonnes at york ever time i go, i got a rough ish 2001 triffit 14 tonner with sprung drawbar proper commercial axles for 1650

I've been looking for over a year for a second hand trailer and nothing has turned up. Anything suitable is too close to new price

 

[Farmer_Joe]

jesus, every time i got to york i think how they are giving them away, and theres loads, i will send you a link

 

[Rs chunk]

Bogies are terrible we have a nc dump trailer and it’s always bouncing about or old Fraser dump trailer is on springs and far better.

 

[Thomas5060]

Have a woods 13x6,6 on bogies and our low loader is a 13ft on the flat mcm on springs, same tyres and six stud axles. Both carry 8 bales. Would take the bogies any day, maybe not just as nice on the road but far better in field and turning out of gateways

 

[v8willy]

Be a bogie with a sprung drawbar if it was mine.
I pull our bale trailer on bogies, mates the same with sprung drawbar, his pulls nicer & a lot quieter too.
Maybe just my imagination but I always thought trailers with a sprung drawbar hooked off & loaded in the field don't sink in as much, as when the weight goes on them they rotate a bit.

Have a grain trailer on sprung axles & drawbar, a great trailer to pull but would scare you looking in the mirrors in a corner.

 

[cousinjack]

Our new 27 footer is on bogies with sprung drawbar and I'm so glad I went bogies... it's so amazingly stable..
33 quadrants on and it just sits there !

Bit bouncy when running empty though and tends to vibrate the tractor cab a bit too..

If your not intending high or unstable loads go for springs

 

[tinman]

I haven't priced it, trying to keep the floor height down and the cost down. Is a sprung drawbar of any benefit on a trailer that length?

Why are you trying to keep the floor height down?.
I swore along time ago that any trailed implement that comes here again would have a sprung drawbar, bought a 1300 tanker without one and regretted it ever since.
No matter, sprung drawbar and bogie axles Imo.

You sure about them tyres?, they are wild small, maybe your on real dry ground but round here that size could hang you badly in a soft field.
And are they good for the weight?, maybe it's only straw and hay your going drawing but I had a Donnelly one time about that size and altho the trailer was excellent the tyres just weren't up to it, punctures everywhere, I was so sick of it I sold her.
It was a 14' with an extension on it too but was used for a trailer with sides most of the time.
If there is a high ply rating on your tyres then maybe they are good for it but if not then I'd be seriously considering my tyre options.

 

[Thomas5060]

Why are you trying to keep the floor height down?.
I swore along time ago that any trailed implement that comes here again would have a sprung drawbar, bought a 1300 tanker without one and regretted it ever since.
No matter, sprung drawbar and bogie axles Imo.

You sure about them tyres?, they are wild small, maybe your on real dry ground but round here that size could hang you badly in a soft field.
And are they good for the weight?, maybe it's only straw and hay your going drawing but I had a Donnelly one time about that size and altho the trailer was excellent the tyres just weren't up to it, punctures everywhere, I was so sick of it I sold her.
It was a 14' with an extension on it too but was used for a trailer with sides most of the time.
If there is a high ply rating on your tyres then maybe they are good for it but if not then I'd be seriously considering my tyre options.

I imagine he will want the floor height down for carting hay

 

[Frantic Farmer]

Had springs on an 11 ton bailey , wish I hadn’t , takes too much weight off draw bar . If it’s dropped off on anything but a level surface it’s quite likely to roll away .

 

[astra]

I'm with tinman on this one,stay away from them 15.5 rims,they will break your heart....

 

[Boohoo]

Why are you trying to keep the floor height down?.
I swore along time ago that any trailed implement that comes here again would have a sprung drawbar, bought a 1300 tanker without one and regretted it ever since.
No matter, sprung drawbar and bogie axles Imo.

You sure about them tyres?, they are wild small, maybe your on real dry ground but round here that size could hang you badly in a soft field.
And are they good for the weight?, maybe it's only straw and hay your going drawing but I had a Donnelly one time about that size and altho the trailer was excellent the tyres just weren't up to it, punctures everywhere, I was so sick of it I sold her.
It was a 14' with an extension on it too but was used for a trailer with sides most of the time.
If there is a high ply rating on your tyres then maybe they are good for it but if not then I'd be seriously considering my tyre options.

Want a low floor height for loading small bales of hay by hand and also because our digger doesn't lift that high without spilling everything out of the bucket.
We aren't on dry land but we stay off it when it's wet and are used to a 6ton single axle on 12.5x15.3s so 400s should be an improvement. I'll check with the manufacturer about what tyres they're fitting but I'm sure they'll be up to it as they're not known for cutting corners.

 

[Chuckie]

I'm with tinman on this one,stay away from them 15.5 rims,they will break your heart....

435/50r19.5 on 8 stud axles would be much better imo.

 

[Boohoo]

435/50r19.5 on 8 stud axles would be much better imo.

They're a road tyre, I wouldn't take those or super singles into a field

 

[essexpete]

My 2 main trailers are both on springs and the tipper has a sprung drawbar. The latter rides so much better on bumpy roads.
They are both on 8 stud which do not brake as well as 10 stud but better than the 6 stud trailers I have used. Probably worth finding out the braking capacity /area of the drums on different specs.
If I were to use a trailer on steep /unlevel ground I think I would go for the walking beam bogie.