Squire Ultra

[agrimax]

Anybody know if Squire Ultra herbicide will kill dandelions? Bit of an infestation here in grass but don't want to wipe out the bit of white clover too. The label only says docks and some broadleaved weeds. It doesn't specify which weeds.

 

[davidroberts30]

Personally I wouldn't spray out just dandelions

 

[bobk]

Anybody know if Squire Ultra herbicide will kill dandelions? Bit of an infestation here in grass but don't want to wipe out the bit of white clover too. The label only says docks and some broadleaved weeds. It doesn't specify which weeds.

They'll be gone in a fortnight

 

[agrimax]

Personally I wouldn't spray out just dandelions

There's a few docks and also a bit of cow parsley growing out from the hedges...

They'll be gone in a fortnight

The flowers might but the plants won't...

 

[davidroberts30]

That cow parsley takes some shifting
Forefront struggles with that

 

[Brisel]

Killing broad leafed weeds and not the clover is always going to be tricky. A Triad/Spruce mix might give better results.

 

[neilo]

Killing broad leafed weeds and not the clover is always going to be tricky. A Triad/Spruce mix might give better results.

I’m not sure you can still get those, I know I couldn’t last year. Was about the only halfway effective clover safe herbicide on reseeds.

If you can, I suspect Spruce alone would kill dandelions. They don’t take much. They’d have to be pretty bad before I’d bother though.

 

[ollie989898]

I'd probably try full rate Polo for dandelions. Spruce, jebus. At high rates it becomes very expensive.

 

[Northern territory]

I think there reckon to be some clover safe products in the pipeline.

 

[ollie989898]

I think there reckon to be some clover safe products in the pipeline.

I was told this about 5-6 years ago and that they were based on the same kind of technology as arylex but it would be such a small market compared to other sectors.

 

[Northern territory]

I was told this about 5-6 years ago and that they were based on the same kind of technology as arylex but it would be such a small market compared to other sectors.

I think it will be that active, it’s maybe a growing market again

 

[serf]

I think there reckon to be some clover safe products in the pipeline.

You would think so too , with the emphasis nowadays on reduced N use and more clover in sward that there would be plenty of options by now

 

[Kevtherev]

When was the land limed last ?
Maybe soil test it as they can be a sign of acidic soils.

 

[ollie989898]

You would think so too , with the emphasis nowadays on reduced N use and more clover in sward that there would be plenty of options by now

You would think so, but EU rules regarding re-registration and alternative comparisons are what did for triad, cimmaron etc. It has become too costly to bother trying to get these things approved.

The industry should have access to:

Triad
Pinnacle
Squire ultra
Spruce
Cimmaron
Tropotox/legumeX

All at the very least.

It's the same story in the pea and bean world mind, they do away with simazine/cyanazine and some of the key fungicides and then wonder why no one grows them and the bees are missing out.

Probably get the same ecology degree brain-boxes in Defra wondering why farmers don't grow more legumes: 'wouldn't need nitrogen or to kill orang-utans if everyone grew legumes'.

 

[Brisel]

I’m not sure you can still get those, I know I couldn’t last year. Was about the only halfway effective clover safe herbicide on reseeds.

If you can, I suspect Spruce alone would kill dandelions. They don’t take much. They’d have to be pretty bad before I’d bother though.

I had heard that Triad might be going a while ago. It has been a while since I used that combination where I wanted to protect clover.

 

[Northern territory]

Mcpb was a good product, better than 24db in my opinion, sadly both gone

 

[ollie989898]

Mcpb was a good product, better than 24db in my opinion, sadly both gone

They did different weeds from memory? Used to see a fair bit of it on farms in old cans from long ago.