Staff Motivation

Jdunn55

Member
I hate having to micro manage too. I’m a huge believer in giving people parameters and them achieve what’s been requested how they see fit to do so.
It's a lot nicer to work in an environment like that as well. Theres no "fear" of doing something in the wrong way, after all if the end result is achieved in a timely manner who cares how it's achieved!?
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
Had one boss that insisted on micro managing whenever working with me, constantly telling me how to do the job that I was pretty good at and had been doing it for decades. His own workmanship was bloody atrocious and I always begrudged his "advice".
 
I've worked in places where the level of micromanagement was insane.

I shall never forget my old boss; though I was only a harvest student, I was always treated the same as any of the full time staff. Often, when the boss was away, he would just leave a list of stuff for us and we would get it done. A list of fields to do whatever in and we would divvy it up and get it done. It didn't matter if the man was away for a week, the work would get done.

Conversely, there is the sort of farmer who seems to dislike the idea of not being able to do everything himself. For example, you could have a full time guy, very experienced, who wouldn't have a clue what was happening tomorrow or the day after that: 'go and plough that field, then come back and see me'... Oh great, so the guy with 30 years machinery experience, does he change his points in the evening before he goes home knowing he will be ploughing again tomorrow or what? Talk about demotivational.
 
What were you on those days compared to now in a sense
About £4 an hour but never used to book all the hours I worked, place with the slow milker was there about 10 years, first 8 years doing weekends along side a full time job, last 2 years doing weekends and every weekday afternoon milking, never booked more than £6 or 1 1/2hours per milking, 5/10 herringbone 65/70 cows, when I left they had a chap who booked every minute and the cows were gone within 6 months and the farm let out, other place about 3 years, 44 cows through a 4 standing cowshed milked with a miracle milker and 2 bucket units, and then had to carry the buckets of milk 35 yards to the bulk tank, then upgraded to a 12/12 herringbone and 250 cows, between 1980 and 1990.
 

Sheepykid

Member
Not quite. You need to have a bit of an aura so your staff understand where the line is.
If necessary, give them a “Positive Bollocking”
Out of interest when dishing out the “Bollocking” what approach do you all go for?
Are you calm and collected. And go for the explaining approach as to why that happened and what to do next time to avoid that happening again?
Or
Are you the totally flip your lid, vein bulging on your forehead all the expletives you can think of approach?
I’ve always found it interesting having been a employee and more recently an employer which approach people go for.
My conclusion was those that totally lose the plot may not get the best end result but they don’t bottle up any anger which the first approach gets you as you, if your honest, never let go of the frustration you have!
 

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Out of interest when dishing out the “Bollocking” what approach do you all go for?
Are you calm and collected. And go for the explaining approach as to why that happened and what to do next time to avoid that happening again?
Or
Are you the totally flip your lid, vein bulging on your forehead all the expletives you can think of approach?
I’ve always found it interesting having been a employee and more recently an employer which approach people go for.
My conclusion was those that totally lose the plot may not get the best end result but they don’t bottle up any anger which the first approach gets you as you, if your honest, never let go of the frustration you have!

Usually moan at the son and tell him to do it.
 

s line

Member
About a decade ago i was asked to help look after a dairy farm. About 100 cow's. The owner was recovering from a operation.
I was there day in, day out for 2 months.
Every afternoon around 5 pm his wife use to come into the parlour with a cup of tea 🍵 and a generous slice of chocolate cake 🎂.
Just when i was getting tired it really lifted me.

If they ever ring up wanting a hand i always try and help them out.
 
Location
West Wales
Out of interest when dishing out the “Bollocking” what approach do you all go for?
Are you calm and collected. And go for the explaining approach as to why that happened and what to do next time to avoid that happening again?
Or
Are you the totally flip your lid, vein bulging on your forehead all the expletives you can think of approach?
I’ve always found it interesting having been a employee and more recently an employer which approach people go for.
My conclusion was those that totally lose the plot may not get the best end result but they don’t bottle up any anger which the first approach gets you as you, if your honest, never let go of the frustration you have!

shouting and screaming get you no where. It depends what’s happened but if they’ve broken something getting them to help fix it is always a brilliant lesson. People make mistakes though and things do go wrong form time to time.
 

Sheepykid

Member
shouting and screaming get you no where. It depends what’s happened but if they’ve broken something getting them to help fix it is always a brilliant lesson. People make mistakes though and things do go wrong form time to time.
I agree. I’m not a fan of losing your temper. I like to think when things go wrong they are accidents. That nobody maliciously sets out to cause damage. But I bet being that we are in industry under high workload and pressure I bet we are a minority.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
The number of young people I've seen over the past couple of years try and do a job and either cant be bothered or think they should be entitled to £50/hour plus a house is unreal. I'm only 20 but have seen more than 10 different younger people leave their job over the past 3 years in the 2 jobs I've worked at. For the most part they seem like they genuinly cant be bothered, some dont want to get off the tractor seat, some think they know everything. Several of them at my last job were asked to bed down calves, shown what is expected and where they are and after several weeks were taking ALL MORNING to bed them down (a job that took anyone decent half an hour to an hour depending on the number of calves). Giving them more money doesnt work either, as soon as they've got that pay rise they're thinking about how much the next one should be and when next week they should ask for it...

I might be getting my TFF members mixed up but I'm thinking you are about to set out on your own?
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
The OP seems to be a young fella, he posted a similar thread back in June.
He didn't add anything further to that one either.
He's doing well to be running 600 cows at 21.
 

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
As the son this is always a pain. He's either got the wrong end of the stick. It's a problem I'm already sorting or it's a problem in his mind but in the bigger picture it doesn't matter. But I have unfortunately experienced a couple of minutes of negativity that my day would have been better without.

I do take it on my self to have “quiet words” from time to time ..... but I also have a nuclear option that they are aware of.
What’s the phrase? Speak soft but carry a big stick ..
 

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