Standing crops.

[warksfarmer]

Thinking about it from the highest point and then working backwards is probably sensible. So 4t/ac this year will be at the top end of the scale and I would of thought £250/t will be the top price sold at (assuming milling wheat by the way) so 4t/ac @ £250/t is £1,000/acre.

Its up to the buyer to decide if the crop can do 4t/ac and whats the chance of selling at £250/t!

 

[Clive]

Thinking about it from the highest point and then working backwards is probably sensible. So 4t/ac this year will be at the top end of the scale and I would of thought £250/t will be the top price sold at (assuming milling wheat by the way) so 4t/ac @ £250/t is £1,000/acre.

Its up to the buyer to decide if the crop can do 4t/ac and whats the chance of selling at £250/t!

I would think it would only be polite to let the buyer make a profit as well maybe ?? !!!

I can't see standing wheat making half that price this year personally

 

[warksfarmer]

I would think it would only be polite to let the buyer make a profit as well maybe ?? !!!

I can't see standing wheat making half that price this year personally

Yes of course thats why I said 'its top end' so you would work back accordingly.

If I was to sell mine I would still want to desiccate to tidy up the stubbles so I would do that foc and as already said I want the straw dropped in the swath so I would have to effectively knock the straw value off the agreed sale price as I want it, and take the cost of the desiccation on the chin.

As for this year at a public auction for wheat then I still think buyers will be thinking about yields of 3.5t/ac selling prices of over £200/t. I dont think there will be many standing wheat auctions though to be honest. As already said the annual local one is Barley this year and I would of thought that will go to a livestock farmer for feed and straw value. Guess at £550/ac.

 

[d williams]

Thinking about it from the highest point and then working backwards is probably sensible. So 4t/ac this year will be at the top end of the scale and I would of thought £250/t will be the top price sold at (assuming milling wheat by the way) so 4t/ac @ £250/t is £1,000/acre.

Its up to the buyer to decide if the crop can do 4t/ac and whats the chance of selling at £250/t!

Would that work in reverse starting at the lowest and working up?

 

[d williams]

Yes of course thats why I said 'its top end' so you would work back accordingly.

If I was to sell mine I would still want to desiccate to tidy up the stubbles so I would do that foc and as already said I want the straw dropped in the swath so I would have to effectively knock the straw value off the agreed sale price as I want it, and take the cost of the desiccation on the chin.

As for this year at a public auction for wheat then I still think buyers will be thinking about yields of 3.5t/ac selling prices of over £200/t. I dont think there will be many standing wheat auctions though to be honest. As already said the annual local one is Barley this year and I would of thought that will go to a livestock farmer for feed and straw value. Guess at £550/ac.

Be careful burning of crops you want to bale especially if a rotary combine being used number of bales to acre less

 

[Clive]

Yes of course thats why I said 'its top end' so you would work back accordingly.

If I was to sell mine I would still want to desiccate to tidy up the stubbles so I would do that foc and as already said I want the straw dropped in the swath so I would have to effectively knock the straw value off the agreed sale price as I want it, and take the cost of the desiccation on the chin.

As for this year at a public auction for wheat then I still think buyers will be thinking about yields of 3.5t/ac selling prices of over £200/t. I dont think there will be many standing wheat auctions though to be honest. As already said the annual local one is Barley this year and I would of thought that will go to a livestock farmer for feed and straw value. Guess at £550/ac.

You might struggle to get someone to think yours will do 3.5t/ac when you have posted on here that it would do 2t/ac but recently upped that to 3

Auction is the only way to sell really but keeping straw rules out the whole crop buyers who as we know pay a lot when they have cows to feed and no grass

 

[d williams]

You might struggle to get someone to think yours will do 3.5t/ac when you have posted on here that it would do 2t/ac but recently upped that to 3

Auction is the only way to sell really but keeping straw rules out the whole crop buyers who as we know pay a lot when they have cows to feed and no grass

I would think whole crop is the fairest way for both parties to sell a cereal crop unless two very understanding parties are involved somehow can't see selling grain and keeping straw working on a catchy year

 

[DRC]

It's always a risk buying straw standing,as it can soon disappear if it has to be turned to dry out.
I heard locally of some terrible disputes last year, when,allegedly, a large estate started chopping straw that someone had bought at auction, as they weren't prepared to wait any longer.Supposedly the purchaser had said[if you touch my effing straw, I'll see you in court!]

 

[d williams]

It's always a risk buying straw standing,as it can soon disappear if it has to be turned to dry out.
I heard locally of some terrible disputes last year, when,allegedly, a large estate started chopping straw that someone had bought at auction, as they weren't prepared to wait any longer.Supposedly the purchaser had said[if you touch my effing straw, I'll see you in court!]

We bought a bit last year at auction farmer rings to say straw ready question him is he sure as we are two hrs away reassures me it is we get to the field baler telehandler tractor and trailer straw wet question farmer says didn't expect to see you as nobody's ever come when we've told them on leaving that farm to go to the next was offered all 900 ac for this year as cleared more efficient than next door farmers could move it

 

[DRC]

We bought a bit last year at auction farmer rings to say straw ready question him is he sure as we are two hrs away reassures me it is we get to the field baler telehandler tractor and trailer straw wet question farmer says didn't expect to see you as nobody's ever come when we've told them on leaving that farm to go to the next was offered all 900 ac for this year as cleared more efficient than next door farmers could move it

Have found it's better to let purchaser come and decide for himself, although i have one guy who will bale stuff that i don't think is fit.
If your combining does anyone find it irritating if the baler is following you up the field, or glad that it's being baled!
Last year one chap insisted on getting the headlands baled before i ran over them[not a bad idea in theory],but i reversed the combine and must have caught a bale, which pushed the straw chopper up enough to stop the straw coming out[i have an aged class dom 108]. I thought a belt had gone when all the warning lights came on and the thing was blocked with straw

 

[warksfarmer]

You might struggle to get someone to think yours will do 3.5t/ac when you have posted on here that it would do 2t/ac but recently upped that to 3

Auction is the only way to sell really but keeping straw rules out the whole crop buyers who as we know pay a lot when they have cows to feed and no grass

Beauty is in the ear of the beholder!

 

[Refco]

Have found it's better to let purchaser come and decide for himself, although i have one guy who will bale stuff that i don't think is fit.
If your combining does anyone find it irritating if the baler is following you up the field, or glad that it's being baled!
Last year one chap insisted on getting the headlands baled before i ran over them[not a bad idea in theory],but i reversed the combine and must have caught a bale, which pushed the straw chopper up enough to stop the straw coming out[i have an aged class dom 108]. I thought a belt had gone when all the warning lights came on and the thing was blocked with straw

Something similar has happened to me. Combining a field in the dark when there are bales all over the headland can be a pain!

 

[tw15]

Be careful burning of crops you want to bale especially if a rotary combine being used number of bales to acre less

Another knock on the rotory ! they dont make straw disappear, they do break the straw but by and large most straw is either fed in a mixer wagon or beddded with a straw blower so in that case the rotory combine has done half the cutting of the straw for you. Bale are usually denser behind a rotory combine i personaly find baling behind axialflows you can get a lot easier flow straight into the d1000 baler as you are not trying to get great big fluffy rows into it usually get between 5-6 d100o bales an acre in a good crop of wheat that still has about a 6 inch stubble left .

 

[Billboy1]

straw would be a determining factor this year ?

 

[David.]

11yrs on, and looking at values at top of thread, it's hard to see today any higher.
It's lucky that nothing we buy has increased since 2013.

 

[Billboy1]

11yrs on, and looking at values at top of thread, it's hard to see today any higher.
It's lucky that nothing we buy has increased since 2013.

Old threads can be a real eye opener sometimes

 

[David.]

I respectfully wonder if @DRC regrets for one moment that he isn't fighting with it anymore.

 

[DRC]

I respectfully wonder if @DRC regrets for one moment that he isn't fighting with it anymore.

Don’t regret it at all. I was very lucky, finishing in a year with decent yields, good prices and not drying a single grain. I feel for everyone this last year .