Stealing food to solve the food crisis.

Hindsight

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Lincolnshire
Sorry, I digress.


Was done in purple for Holocaust memorial Day.

Wasnt aware of it being lit up for St George's Day........

It actually caused some trouble with so e folk going and putting buckets over the lights to stop them.
With the climate crisis and now energy crisis the important question is why light it up at all. There is a war on. nightime blackout should be order of the day.
 

Jackov Altraids

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Believe it or not they have gone one better than that ffs🙄View attachment 1037085

I think that is quite brilliant.

Some spend £millions on advisors and schemes to help inclusion.

A couple quid on some paint and a free smile is worth its weight in gold.

There used to be a local copper who would do a little something fun at the local carnival. It was extremely effective at making the younger kids see him/ them as a friend rather than foe.
 

texelburger

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Herefordshire
On radio 4 this morning (I admit I was a bit sleepy) A government Minister said that with the food crisis, Police should not get involved if people were stealing food.

I would think the exact opposite, should come down really hard on people looting veg/potatoes from fields. Equally those rustling stock, stealing eggs, shop lifting etc. So that food can be distributed through the proper channels.

Whoever said it must retract or resign IMHO.
He's advocating a lawless society, a bit like Downing street during Covid.
Actually just read it was the Police saying this and not the minister.Luckily for us a lot of the public,who are so detached from the countryside, wouldn't have a clue what was growing in the fields and certainly wouldn't know how to harvest/pick it.
 
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teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I think this whole thread / story derives from a comment that anyone caught stealing food from a shop through desperation should be given a degree of understanding / help rather than make their lives more difficult at a greater cost to us all. That doesn't seem too unreasonable.

This is a given. However, thats the sort of thing for a sentencing judge to take as mitigation. Plods job is to uphold the law. Not to make decisions on its application. The dont get to make it either. While I dont think charity ought take responsibility for the poor from government, there are many routes available before folk have to resort to stealing. Because the last thing these folk need is a caution or criminal record.
 

Jackov Altraids

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
This is a given. However, thats the sort of thing for a sentencing judge to take as mitigation. Plods job is to uphold the law. Not to make decisions on its application. The dont get to make it either. While I dont think charity ought take responsibility for the poor from government, there are many routes available before folk have to resort to stealing. Because the last thing these folk need is a caution or criminal record.

I suspect it is not life's waster's that resort to stealing to feed their family because they know how to 'milk the system'. It is the hard working 'just about managing' that have never wanted or needed help before who find themselves in a desperate situation.
So while a agree that it should normally be for a judge to decide rather than the police, in these circumstances, a little bit of help and a point in the right direction can be all that is needed.
When you are desperately short of money, the last thing you need is a day off work to go to court or even worse, lose your job.
To be fair, one would hope this kind of discretion has always been used.
 

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Id wholeheartedly agree in days gone by, but I hope that for folk at that point, they would be helped by their local foodbank first.

This discretion wouldnt have been used. Local shops still advertise a zero tollerance - we prosecute everything attitude.
 

SteveHants

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Livestock Farmer
I suspect it is not life's waster's that resort to stealing to feed their family because they know how to 'milk the system'. It is the hard working 'just about managing' that have never wanted or needed help before who find themselves in a desperate situation.
So while a agree that it should normally be for a judge to decide rather than the police, in these circumstances, a little bit of help and a point in the right direction can be all that is needed.
When you are desperately short of money, the last thing you need is a day off work to go to court or even worse, lose your job.
To be fair, one would hope this kind of discretion has always been used.
People don't shoplift food "for the money" anyway the idea is preposterous.

How on earth would you shoplift enough food to make it worth selling it for a quick buck?

Shove 20 steaks down your trousers? :rolleyes:

The supermarkets waste £millions in food every year.
 

unlacedgecko

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
People don't shoplift food "for the money" anyway the idea is preposterous.

How on earth would you shoplift enough food to make it worth selling it for a quick buck?

Shove 20 steaks down your trousers? :rolleyes:

The supermarkets waste £millions in food every year.

They do. Mainly to buy drugs.

The Eastern Europeans who rustle sheep also do it for the money.
 

egbert

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Livestock Farmer
I quite understand the sentiment, and would expect leniency at every level of the judiciary.
But advertising this is stupidity at an epic level.
It's encouraging folk, implying that it's not really much of a crime.....

I notice, on news reports about the cost of living, those interviewed lately seem to have been able to spend money on tattoos and hair jobs.....
And while i wouldn't see people in the UK hungry - principally cos they might come round to my house and nick summat- i do wander how much is down to skewed expectations.
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
I quite understand the sentiment, and would expect leniency at every level of the judiciary.
But advertising this is stupidity at an epic level.
It's encouraging folk, implying that it's not really much of a crime.....

I notice, on news reports about the cost of living, those interviewed lately seem to have been able to spend money on tattoos and hair jobs.....
And while i wouldn't see people in the UK hungry - principally cos they might come round to my house and nick summat- i do wander how much is down to skewed expectations.
The uk is heading back to the jungle judging by the tattoos
 

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