Steel frame building - concrete bases question

snarling bee

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
We are having a 60 x 80 ft shed put up and the contractors have just put in the bases for the steel frame, see pictures. I questioned that the bases are all set the same level despite there being about 500mm difference in ground level, and some bases have been put in using soil or hardcore as shuttering. Every building we have put up in the past the stanchions have always been extended to accommodate uneven ground. Is this the new way of building or am I having my leg lifted. Before anybody asks, yes it was the cheapest quote, but from a recommended and well known company.
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S J H

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
We are having a 60 x 80 ft shed put up and the contractors have just put in the bases for the steel frame, see pictures. I questioned that the bases are all set the same level despite there being about 500mm difference in ground level, and some bases have been put in using soil or hardcore as shuttering. Every building we have put up in the past the stanchions have always been extended to accommodate uneven ground. Is this the new way of building or am I having my leg lifted. Before anybody asks, yes it was the cheapest quote, but from a recommended and well known company.View attachment 988385View attachment 988386View attachment 988387
Have they got the frame being built at the moment though @snarling bee rather than waiting for the bases to be done for the measurement? I personally can’t see much of a problem, just more work for them doing the footings.
 

David.

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Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
It doesn't look very nice, but it probably won't fall over.
If you are concreting the shed floor, remove their mole-heaps and run some around the concrete bases to bring it up level.
 

steveR

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Mixed Farmer
Had the same done here last year on a gently slopingf site, and I too was surprised, as mine is a barn, not a shed, so will not be having a concrete floor laid afterwards. Seems to me as others said, purely so all the steel is the same and can be pre-fabbed blind

Hope to extend next year, and that will be having the legs put in the ground properly!
 
We are having a 60 x 80 ft shed put up and the contractors have just put in the bases for the steel frame, see pictures. I questioned that the bases are all set the same level despite there being about 500mm difference in ground level, and some bases have been put in using soil or hardcore as shuttering. Every building we have put up in the past the stanchions have always been extended to accommodate uneven ground. Is this the new way of building or am I having my leg lifted. Before anybody asks, yes it was the cheapest quote, but from a recommended and well known company.View attachment 988385View attachment 988386View attachment 988387
does the installer post on here?
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
We are having a 60 x 80 ft shed put up and the contractors have just put in the bases for the steel frame, see pictures. I questioned that the bases are all set the same level despite there being about 500mm difference in ground level, and some bases have been put in using soil or hardcore as shuttering. Every building we have put up in the past the stanchions have always been extended to accommodate uneven ground. Is this the new way of building or am I having my leg lifted. Before anybody asks, yes it was the cheapest quote, but from a recommended and well known company.View attachment 988385View attachment 988386View attachment 988387
Are they making the shed or have they just bought a shed kit and making the site fit . I wouldnt be very happy unless i was told in advance
 

AJR75

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Location
Somerset
What does your quote say? At a guess there may be something in there about all bases being on one level and assumed at say 300mm below FFL. The more standardised a building is the easier and more economically it can be produced generally speaking.
 

puppet

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Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
The top picture looks dodgy sitting on top of rubble. One footing looks a bit small too. How deep are they? Supposed to be 60cm.
The footings are also to stop the shed taking off in a gale so should all be below ground level.
 

Fendt516profi

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
We do both ways.
Either put all bases 200 to 400 below FFL
Or put bases slightly under ground which is there and take their levels relative to FFL and make each column to suit
To be honest it’s a lot easier cutting steel to the mm then setting concrete to the mm especially when it’s setting too quick to get bolts in
But would you build the ground up around the bases like this
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Working from home

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Livestock Farmer
I've seen it done like that before, one thing you will come accross is that if you are putting panels in,the bottom of the bottom panel is obviously going to be way above current ground level and its gonna take a bit of building up. I personally prefer the bottom of the bottom panel just slightly below current ground level, makes the hardcoreing and concreting much easier and a lot neater and tidier.
 

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