Steel frame building - concrete bases question

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I agree, stepped it down another, say, 500mm then just staggered the panels to suit, but it always looks better if the tops of the panels run along together.
 

dave mountain

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We are having a 60 x 80 ft shed put up and the contractors have just put in the bases for the steel frame, see pictures. I questioned that the bases are all set the same level despite there being about 500mm difference in ground level, and some bases have been put in using soil or hardcore as shuttering. Every building we have put up in the past the stanchions have always been extended to accommodate uneven ground. Is this the new way of building or am I having my leg lifted. Before anybody asks, yes it was the cheapest quote, but from a recommended and well known company.View attachment 988385View attachment 988386View attachment 988387
It is doable using the same length stanchions, but the higher bases should have been shuttered properly and neatly, and had 16mm or 20mm rebar embedded throughout such that the protruding part of the concrete is at least as strong as the stanchion itself
 

Hesstondriver

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we had one like this, by mutual agreement, to maximize height in the building and aid jumping through planning hoops (off the shelf building) - ground and floor is now made up and its fine . its just not the orthodox way of doing things
 

HatsOff

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Usually the whole area would be flattened first.

I know lots of sheds are put in to suit the ground level, but it is a better job to set out to a level floor - it gives you more options in future than trying to deal with a sloping shed floor.

What I would now do is build up the ground level around the outside so that the foundations are all below ground.

Get the landscaping boots on.
 

snarling bee

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Bedfordshire
We stripped the top soil, not levelled the site. We don't want the building in a hole so the lower side needs building up with hardcore rather than the higher side being lowered. And the bases in solid ground.

I now have the shed builder asking for base levels - They are all the f@@~king same thanks to the t6655pot goundworker.
 

Bald n Grumpy

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Is it just me or is anyone else concerned that the bloke doing the bases has time to do them before the shed is made? Don't start here until everything is on site
 

marco

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Is it just me or is anyone else concerned that the bloke doing the bases has time to do them before the shed is made? Don't start here until everything is on site
Why would you be concerned? Local builder will do footings for the next shed if he's delayed at his current shed for some reason. That means they are well cured before he starts and he can move equipment over when he's finished with it at the current site.
 

Bald n Grumpy

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Sheds we've put up have been around livestock yards, don't like the idea of open holes with bolts stuck up for weeks or even month's while the sheds on order.
Just as snarling bee said there are many ways to build a shed
 
Is it just me or is anyone else concerned that the bloke doing the bases has time to do them before the shed is made? Don't start here until everything is on site

Sheds we've put up have been around livestock yards, don't like the idea of open holes with bolts stuck up for weeks or even month's while the sheds on order.
Just as snarling bee said there are many ways to build a shed

given it’s the year 2021 frankly I’m impressed he’s got a shed going up at all!
 

milkloss

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East Sussex
Good builder will take levels before and order shed to suit ,that's my experience anyway
Yes, I get that. I just wasn't sure how you would expect a construction co. To turn up with 360's, telehandler s etc etc, sink the pads and then wait until a shed is built. A lot of gear sitting about earning nothing.

BTW I was 12 last time we had a shed built here So ignore me if I'm talking rubbish!
 
Ideal world you order the shed, they come out and level the site, stone up and and put the footings in, shed is drawn to suit these levels, shed is made and then erected. Lovely.

Usual scenario, order shed on the proviso that they deliver it within 6 weeks, they say the only way that can happen is if we make it 'standard' with footing 300mm below floor level, because the site lads are tied up and cannot get to do the footings that soon. Yeah no worries the site is nice and level, and we will strip it for you. 1 week before delivery the men and a digger arrive, nice muddy site as just the grass has been taken off and no stone brought in. The 'level site' slopes a foot and a half over the 100ft shed, to the naked eye with the grass on it probably looked level. Now you have this exact scenario, either some footings are higher than the ground or the shed is lower than excepted by dropping them all in the ground. Or the worst offending bases are dropped and then I get a call, can you alter the drawing on 3 columns in the next hour as the lads are bringing the columns back in to take the baseplates off and extend them..

Moral of the story, order the shed early and keep following it up.
 

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