Steel framed house

[S J H]

I have no thoughts on the actual property but we looked at a property in N Wales a while back which was "not of traditional construction" (it was steel frame) and the vendors were struggling to sell it as no mortgage company would lend on it.
Then a friend near here was considering buying one but surveyor advised that it would be 'un-mortgageable'

Best have an eye to the future??

Another thing to remember with steel frame is all the fire proofing, my uncle had a steel ridge beam put in, clad it in oak to look good, it ended up bigger and dearer than glulam! Leave steel frame for Grand Designs.

I expect it would have to be sprayed in fire retardant, I don't really see much difference in construction because it would be block and stone built, but I take your points on board,

I expect a structural engineer will want a couple of grand to work it out, and just take any saving away.

 

[S J H]

Who is the house for? Will it be sold on?

My point was if you want to use block or brick then that can take the load the steels would.

Sips are timber frame based usually

Those who use steel frame end up with hoff house style or ultra minamilistic box things normally.

If you want to build a house on a budget just speak to a decent architect / builder

The house is for me, but it has to be mortgageable.

I'd never ask an architect to build something on budget, because they'll just start with a higher figure.

I've never liked the idea of putting a steel on a 4" thermlite wall with a padstone below it, especially 2 storeys in the air.

 

[Hilly]

What would people's opinions be on having a steel portal frame as the framework of a house, blocked in between then clad on the outside?

I haven't spoken to an engineer yet, but thinking out loud, I don't think it would cost an awful lot, it would support all the blockwork so this could be completed with the roof before the external stonework, first floor steels could be in the frame and the 2nd floor could be fully vaulted.

Just wondered if anyone had seen it before or looked into it?

Wouldnt hesitate, if i had my time over again i would have built a massive shed and had everything, every single thing under one roof with my house been in the end bays, heating from slurry under slats.

 

[S J H]

Wouldnt hesitate, if i had my time over again i would have built a massive shed and had everything, every single thing under one roof with my house been in the end bays, heating from slurry under slats.

I'm past that @Hilly but it had crossed my mind, a friend that goes to holland for horses said that was the way that a lot of the yards are built over there.

 

[Hilly]

I'm past that @Hilly but it had crossed my mind, a friend that goes to holland for horses said that was the way that a lot of the yards are built over there.

So am i, great idea tho, never need go outside in the winter !

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

Few examples of Aussie style steel framed homes http://www.paalkithomes.com.au/
http://www.mcdonaldjoneshomes.com.au/home-designs/new-south-wales You obviously don't have termites in the UK Here's a pommy one for you , although its not a true full steel frame like in Aus (see pic below) . http://www.glendaleengineering.co.uk/steel-framed-houses

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Quite common over here,

 

[R J]

We have used a steel frame for a house build . Steel frame clad all over with composite panel , the roof has batten's tec screwed directly on the panels then tilled , Outside was brick up a meter then wether lap boarded , inside was then insulated again with rock wool . It all worked very well . I will put some pictures up when I get chance .

 

[Blue.]

It's something I've considered,biggest gain would be getting a roof on quick so you work in the dry.

Decided in the end just to use blocks,traditional portals and purlins end up costing a fair do because they run the wrong way,then you need more timber in the roof.

 

[mo!]

It's something I've considered,biggest gain would be getting a roof on quick so you work in the dry.

Decided in the end just to use blocks,traditional portals and purlins end up costing a fair do because they run the wrong way,then you need more timber in the roof.

Our timber frame company reckon that it will be dry inside after 3 days. Steel isn't that quick.

 

[Turra farmer]

Our timber frame company reckon that it will be dry inside after 3 days. Steel isn't that quick.

Ye we have done a few , watertight and lockable within 3 days , depends on complexity of kit , this is dependent on foundations being in which would be same for steel

 

[K78]

The barnhaus concept uses a portal frame. Supposed to be the cheapest way to build.

 

[br jones]

Steel frame gives options of big rooms ,big windows,concrete block construction is cheapest per m2

 

[K78]

Steel frame gives options of big rooms ,big windows,concrete block construction is cheapest per m2

I’m about to build a ICF house.

Should be cheaper as I can do most of it myself.

 

[K78]

I found this. Some of the cost estimates look optimistic though.

https://nacsba.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/images_shoestring_18_shoestring13_ed-green.pdf