Steel price

AJR75

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
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Was sent this yesterday- this is for sections UB UC etc. Hollows and plate are a different matter
 

Ali_Maxxum

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Location
Chepstow, Wales
If and when steel does come down is it likely to show in the cost of machinery, sheds, etc or will the likes of labour, production costs and inflation maintain it stays where it is or continue heading north?
 

AJR75

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
If and when steel does come down is it likely to show in the cost of machinery, sheds, etc or will the likes of labour, production costs and inflation maintain it stays where it is or continue heading north?

Steel prices have softened slightly in the last month or so but only slightly and not enough to have a big impact unless you're supplying a structure into the '00s or '000s of tonnes.

Gut feeling is that there is a second wave of this to come in terms of labour rates accelerating over the next 12-18 months fuelled by an ever growing shortage of skilled personnel.
 

mx110

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Location
cumbria
Had conversation with steel supplier about a month ago as to where steel prices were heading. He said prices were sitting pretty steady, any slight drop was taken up by a new environmental tax and a transport tax i think he said.
 

Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
It’s a tricky one. Someone on here said timber has come back down again. Not heard anything else has though

It’ll take a while before everywhere is back on stream at full capacity again.

Hard to know whether to invest now, or wait it out and see.

If things do drop back….I’m guessing farm commodities will too so may not make a big difference in terms of buying power.
 

KellyN

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Location
Nantwich
Steel prices are pretty steady at the moment and have been relatively the same since September. Cladding prices have just rose 12% again! We have been advised a decrease in timber to be expected in the New Year! However, with the way things escalated so quickly at the start to this year, who knows :(
 

Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
Steel prices are pretty steady at the moment and have been relatively the same since September. Cladding prices have just rose 12% again! We have been advised a decrease in timber to be expected in the New Year! However, with the way things escalated so quickly at the start to this year, who knows :(

Great to hear it from the horses mouth, thank you!
 
Quote conversion rates for steel framed buildings are at an all time low with us as a result of this, coupled with timber prices, fuel costs and labour all gone up massively it’s a real problem for many.
 

hoff135

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Location
scotland
Quote conversion rates for steel framed buildings are at an all time low with us as a result of this, coupled with timber prices, fuel costs and labour all gone up massively it’s a real problem for many.
I believe prices have over shot demand in many parts of the economy. Which will work back down the supply chain, demand for steel collapsed in China so maybe we will see a reversal although companies won't be keen but if we don't buy they will be forced to. Put off a machine purchase to next year rightly or wrongly. Can't put prices up 5 to 10% a month and expect people to keep up
 

Happy

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Location
Scotland
I believe prices have over shot demand in many parts of the economy. Which will work back down the supply chain, demand for steel collapsed in China so maybe we will see a reversal although companies won't be keen but if we don't buy they will be forced to. Put off a machine purchase to next year rightly or wrongly. Can't put prices up 5 to 10% a month and expect people to keep up
Was on phone to the guy that put up our last couple of sheds yesterday.
Said he”d a customer a month ago demanding a fixed price from him so seeing as steel prices had been the same through Sept, Oct, Nov agreed thinking things had finally settled down.
Couple of days later steel suppliers inform him December prices going up 12.5%:banghead:
 

hoff135

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Location
scotland
Was on phone to the guy that put up our last couple of sheds yesterday.
Said he”d a customer a month ago demanding a fixed price from him so seeing as steel prices had been the same through Sept, Oct, Nov agreed thinking things had finally settled down.
Couple of days later steel suppliers inform him December prices going up 12.5%:banghead:
Seems to be the way with everything. I'm sure they will blame shipping cost etc. But iron ore has basically halved in price since May. Someone is making money.
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I believe prices have over shot demand in many parts of the economy. Which will work back down the supply chain, demand for steel collapsed in China so maybe we will see a reversal although companies won't be keen but if we don't buy they will be forced to. Put off a machine purchase to next year rightly or wrongly. Can't put prices up 5 to 10% a month and expect people to keep up
Yes very true, hyperinflation of commodity prices has created a negative balance in terms of demand but unfortunately this is going to cause some casualties. It’s like 2008 all over again.
 

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