Stirling Bull sales Simmental / Charolais

[Hesstondriver]

Two top priced Simmentals £18,000 and £17,000 both bought by the Show judge?

didn't he buy the female too ? at least he put his money where his mouth is. to be fair the wolfstar bull was a good bull, bit thick on his front end but none the less a decent bull

 

[glensman]

None, they are pretty all much ad-lib.

Indeed, it was an ironic question to what appeared to be a dig at an individual breed, when of course they are all as well done as the other.

 

[jamesy]

Often the bulls are so fat & broad it makes them appear to be shorter animals than they actually are

 

[AftonShepherd]

didn't he buy the female too ? at least he put his money where his mouth is. to be fair the wolfstar bull was a good bull, bit thick on his front end but none the less a decent bull

Only seen photos but would've thought you'd need to keep the calving jack handy.

 

[backin black]

Why would that be?
Gone too far breeding for easy calving figures?

Don’t know, could just be a bad show, happens in all breeds, some more regularly than others!

 

[M-J-G]

Two top priced Simmentals £18,000 and £17,000 both bought by the Show judge?

I assume from that post that you are suspicious.

If so, I can assure you there will be nothing but straight trading where the King family are concerned.
Alec and Ross are extremely genuine and very modest men!

 

[M-J-G]

i think i bought one of the few that wasn't well done,

I think your bull is a bit immature, he'll be well enough done from that home, he'll mature fine and will breed good females.

If I was looking for a bull, your bull would have been one of my choices, along with the 2 Finlarg bulls and the red Wolfstar bull.

Yes, I have expensive taste, I just don't have the bank balance to match
James Whightman (Coxhill) had a good young bull who would have been good value.

I didn't see much else that I'd have wanted. It's unusual for me to see 5 bulls that I'd be happy to own, I'm usually struggling to find 1 or 2 that I'd take home.

 

[M-J-G]

didn't he buy the female too ? at least he put his money where his mouth is. to be fair the wolfstar bull was a good bull, bit thick on his front end but none the less a decent bull

He bought champion and and reserve females too

 

[top char]

i think i bought one of the few that wasn't well done,

What bull did you buy then? I had a great day with my Charolais, was some feeling selling my first one at 5 figures!

 

[Hesstondriver]

I think your bull is a bit immature, he'll be well enough done from that home, he'll mature fine and will breed good females.

If I was looking for a bull, your bull would have been one of my choices, along with the 2 Finlarg bulls and the red Wolfstar bull.

Yes, I have expensive taste, I just don't have the bank balance to match
James Whightman (Coxhill) had a good young bull who would have been good value.

I didn't see much else that I'd have wanted. It's unusual for me to see 5 bulls that I'd be happy to own, I'm usually struggling to find 1 or 2 that I'd take home.

Thank you, he is most defiantly a immature, he still has that baby face! i agree the Finlarg bulls did also catch our eye they had a good day too, and looking back the red bull from Ross probably had the edge over the champion.

i also liked the Pitmudie bull , but not quite enough length for me though. Denizies herd had a good sale too

i thought overall locomotion was better than october sale,

 

[Werzle]

Even with the weight penalties and perceived calving problems the charolais bulls still outsold all other breeds at stirling

 

[M-J-G]

Even with the weight penalties and perceived calving problems the charolais bulls still outsold all other breeds at stirling

Charolais being linked with calving issues is an old fashioned notion, calving problems are no more of an issue for them than for any other breed these days.

Getting cattle finished his weight limits shouldn't be an issue.
360kg at 55% dead is still over 650kg live.
Easily fleshed cattle of any breed will be ready for that weight if people know what they are doing.

The issue with weight limits is the value of the animal at lighter weights IMO.

If people are to lean towards keeping small cows these days they need something to make the calves grow, 250kg carcasses don't run into much money.

 

[nails]

I assume from that post that you are suspicious.

If so, I can assure you there will be nothing but straight trading where the King family are concerned.
Alec and Ross are extremely genuine and very modest men!

Fair enough then. . Having seen all sorts of shenanigans at Pedigree Sales i always have my suspicious hat on