Stock from TB Free (4 Year test) area?

[steveR]

My SiL has asked if it is correct that some cattle she wants to buy from the Wakefield area, that is in a 4 yr test zone, do not require a pre-movement test? I suggested a call to TPTB, but no one answers the phones!!

Ta.

 

[JP1]

TB4 and in test can move without PMT

 

[steveR]

TB4 and in test can move without PMT

Cheers. So OK with young stock who might not have been tested, as the Holding might be 3 years since the last farm test?

 

[rhifsaith]

My SiL has asked if it is correct that some cattle she wants to buy from the Wakefield area, that is in a 4 yr test zone, do not require a pre-movement test? I suggested a call to TPTB, but no one answers the phones!!

Ta.

I bought some highlands from a tb4 area ,they weren‘t tested before i had them.My annual test was 6 weeks later.
Not sure if I’d have had to test them if my annual test had been just prior to them arriving though.
Her vet would know though

 

[Gedd]

4 yearly testing so can move freely until next test

 

[JP1]

Cheers. So OK with young stock who might not have been tested, as the Holding might be 3 years since the last farm test?

Yep. Crazy I know. This is why it's a TB risk rating, it's not saying TB free. I actually think I would be safer buying cattle myself from a TB shoulder area that get regularly tested and get pre / post movement tested

 

[Sharpy]

A lot of cattle (suckled calves and stores) bought out of Stirling by Yorkshire buyers despite being dearer than English cattle for this reason.

 

[steveR]

Thanks all. The glad tidings have been passed on and she is off to Sunny Wakefield next week... For two ropey Dexter x breds!

 

[som farmer]

a friend bought a TB4 cow, he was TB4, the cow was 6th calver, when he sold up, the herd test, of where she went, was 6 wks later, failed, riddled with TB, that cow, at some time, in her 8 years of life, got infected, badly, and spread it around. Makes a mockery of testing, that was the first TB test, of her life.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

That’s mental surly they should be PMT before they move.

 

[JP1]

That’s mental surly they should be PMT before they move.

Nope not a requirement. If you're High Health I would say it's a sensible precaution to PMT along with other disease nasties on bloods. Trouble is this stupid stupid stupid Government made it so that your local vet won't do the TB regular training etc and they let out the statutory testing so now you have a monopolistic large private vet group that charges for private tests. Around me it's a flat fee of £150 + VAT for up to 10 animals.

 

[steveR]

That’s mental surly they should be PMT before they move.

Fatterning stock, so she will not be overly bothered. I will not disagree with you mind...

I will be replacing our Bull and buying in a few heifers in ther coming months. PMT will a requirement for us.

 

[JP1]

Scotland often trades on TB free status but .....

 

[Whitepeak]

TB4 to TB4 = no test
TB4 to TB1 = post movement test
TB1 to anywhere = pre movement test

 

[ImLost]

TB4 to TB4 = no test
TB4 to TB1 = post movement test
TB1 to anywhere = pre movement test

TB1 to TB4 do you need to do pre and post movement test or just pre?

 

[JP1]

TB1 to TB4 do you need to do pre and post movement test or just pre?

Both. To be fair if you're in TB1 and selling most folks already have stock within the 60 day test window and ready to move in my experience

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

TB4 to TB4 = no test
TB4 to TB1 = post movement test
TB1 to anywhere = pre movement test

So if you buy from a TB4 to a TB1 the person buying the cattle has to pay for a post movement test at there expense?

 

[JP1]

So if you buy from a TB4 to a TB1 the person buying the cattle has to pay for a post movement test at there expense?

You can move as much as you want from a TB4 to a TB1 without testing

If you mean the other way, yes I would imagine the norm would be the TB4 buyer pays the post movement test

 

[steveR]

So if you buy from a TB4 to a TB1 the person buying the cattle has to pay for a post movement test at there expense?

Oh..... within what timescale?

As the OP, this might be an issue for my SiL. I believe the whole herd is not before Winter. Or have I misunderstood the post?

 

[Whitepeak]

So if you buy from a TB4 to a TB1 the person buying the cattle has to pay for a post movement test at there expense?

Sorry wrong way round, TB1 to TB4 = post movement test. (despite being pre movement tested )
Was chatting CHECS schemes with our vet last week and he recommended us to post movement test anything from a TB4, hence my brain fart, sorry!