Store lamb dosing program

[Thelambman]

Well lads I am from midland Republic of Ireland and purchase 500+ store lambs from the south of the country mid September and graze them on well fertilised out farms from our dairy operation until January.
The day after arrival I bring them in and pour on Dysect
1ml of Generic Ivomec (ecomectin)
1ml of Tribovax 10 vaccine
10ml of mineral drench and let them out and dose with Cobalt B12 every 3 weeks while footbathing fhem and weighing them
Has anyone any suggestions on what I should be doing differently etc. All opinions welcome thanks

 

[Macsky]

Dip on arrival, without a doubt.

Less chance of resistance to a dose of zolvix instead of ivermectin.

 

[livestock 1]

Can you dip them? If not you might want to change the ivomec to something different Cydectin la is best but has a long withdrawal Dectomax has some resistantce
A good store lamb dose is levafas diamond some say it’s harsh but works well does fluke and worm and does rumen fluke a silent killer when buying store lambs especially over there
Watch for red gut if it’s had a lot of slurry on

 

[Mc115reed]

Put a bolus down theyre neck much better than dosing every 3 weeks

 

[Thelambman]

The reason I inject with ivomec is to kill any scab or anything that might have maggots starting. They’d both be bloodsucking

Can you dip them? If not you might want to change the ivomec to something different Cydectin la is best but has a long withdrawal Dectomax has some resistantce
A good store lamb dose is levafas diamond some say it’s harsh but works well does fluke and worm and does rumen fluke a silent killer when buying store lambs especially over there
Watch for red gut if it’s had a lot of slurry on

 

[Thelambman]

Can you dip them? If not you might want to change the ivomec to something different Cydectin la is best but has a long withdrawal Dectomax has some resistantce
A good store lamb dose is levafas diamond some say it’s harsh but works well does fluke and worm and does rumen fluke a silent killer when buying store lambs especially over there
Watch for red gut if it’s had a lot of slurry on

If I was to inject with cydectin and dose with levafas would it matter as they’d be getting done for worms twice?

 

[Thelambman]

Put a bolus down theyre neck much better than dosing every 3 weeks

What one in particular?

 

[livestock 1]

Ivomec doesn’t do much for sheep here Cydectin is a great product does sheep well and has persistent activity afterwards just the wd is long
I have asked this question about dosing twice and the answer was it’s better done separately
Store lambs don’t like too many treatments at once whatever they are better split up

 

[Macsky]

I have seen a study, can’t remember where now, on the effects on growth of handling stock repeatedly, and there was a measurable drop with every extra handling. You’d need to make sure that what you were doing was absolutely necessary. I’d say running them through the footbath and weighing them would be significantly less stressful than dosing them as well so the bolus might not only provide better cover for cobalt, it would reduce stress at subsequent handlings too.

 

[JD-Kid]

some good ideas there
if I was still doing store lambs like used to down south on last farm
had breeding sheep on place as well so if you are dairy only dose make things a bit diffrent

would depend on were stores come from if brought in one lot off one place better weaned hill lambs from good breeds would be best pick compared to the end of season dregs most cases a reson they are still small

dip for fly lice etc
5 in one vax to cover sudden deaths
good drench that works to stop resistance worms coming in
mineral drench for a starter bolus if known lack of TE in feeds
split in to weight groups so not running the whole lot thought scales each few weeks

used a probiotic in some lambs here did seem to even them up alot but intresting triple drench can kill some of the bugs in them did not seem to make much diffrence to top lambs but helped the slower ones was 2 kg diffrence between trial lambs and control it also helps stress at yarding or handling

 

[neilo]

If I was to inject with cydectin and dose with levafas would it matter as they’d be getting done for worms twice?

Don't shake it up in the bottle together, but worming with two products at the same time is known as 'sequential worming', and is a way to reduce the rate of build up of resistance.

I'm not sure as to the levels of worm resistance in Ireland, but I suspect it would be similar to the UK. Over here there is considerable resistance to all three wormer groups, so it would be a good idea to spend the money on a decent quarantine drench (Zolvix or Startect). If they're then going on to dairy grass that hasn't seen sheep since the previous year then they'd likely not need worming again.

What one in particular?

That depends what else you're short of, but most will supply cobalt. If you drench for that then it's all out of the system in a couple of days, and a bolus (or long acting injection) will be far more effective and soon paid for.

 

[Highland Mule]

I have seen a study, can’t remember where now, on the effects on growth of handling stock repeatedly, and there was a measurable drop with every extra handling.

Seems logical, but I always feel the stock get a boost from both shearing (hogs) and dipping (anything).

 

[Macsky]

Seems logical, but I always feel the stock get a boost from both shearing (hogs) and dipping (anything).

Agree totally on both fronts