Storm Arwen vs Net Zero…..nature vs arrogance??

[Tarw Coch]

Power went off 3 times yesterday , no electric fence and can't even fuel the tractor because of welsh regulations making us have a fuel station.
No problem in the house, just keep putting a block in the burners and kettle on the top

Thats the trouble with fuel stations, allways seems like all the tractors are low on diesel when the leccy goes off and you need one on the genny

 

[Al R]

Electric never want off but having an old Anthracite Aga/Rayburn to heat the water and heat 1/4 of the house is useful if the electric does go. Log burner and 3 open fires too so keeps the lower 2 levels warm at least.

 

[Pilatus]

It concerns me that us,the human race are having our environment policies being manipulated by so few academics worldwide ,whom their governments
rely on for government decisions ,who base all their policies on computer modelling,rather than lateral thinking ( common sense).
But what do us TFF members know.

 

[bluebell]

within living memory out in the countryside many people hardly ventured outside of their village, as others said back then, right up to the 1950s most villages, small county towns were self sufficent in peoples needs? well their needs were very modest?

 

[Cowcalf]

4 days with no electric which is our only form of heating or any energy, a comlplete shambles it will be a disaster when everything is electric without major work on the electric distribution network. I personally cannot see it happening . They will need wires everywhyere . Has anyone worked out the requirement at peak times, reckon the wires will be glowing or losing volts. UNLESS WE CAN. GO WIRELSS

 

[Steevo]

4 days with no electric which is our only form of heating or any energy, a comlplete shambles it will be a disaster when everything is electric without major work on the electric distribution network. I personally cannot see it happening . They will need wires everywhyere . Has anyone worked out the requirement at peak times, reckon the wires will be glowing or losing volts. UNLESS WE CAN. GO WIRELSS

Wireless.....isn't that known as having your own generator?!

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

4 days with no electric which is our only form of heating or any energy, a comlplete shambles it will be a disaster when everything is electric without major work on the electric distribution network. I personally cannot see it happening . They will need wires everywhyere . Has anyone worked out the requirement at peak times, reckon the wires will be glowing or losing volts. UNLESS WE CAN. GO WIRELSS

This is why people using common sense realise going all electric for the future can't work and the problem starts long before the power goes down the wire.
And to be fair no amount of upgrading of power lines is going to stop mother nature throwing a tantrum and blowing trees over and snapping poles off.
Would suggest if you live out in the sticks you consider some form of heat that requires no electric as it ain't getting any better. At least then you'll be able to have a Luke warm cuppa and some warm beans.

 

[Bury the Trash]

All new houses should be built with solar, wind power and plenty of battery storage (when it becomes more affordable).
These new builds which are slung up in ten minutes as cheap as possible are absolutely shocking, these big developers taking the pee.

and the planners and buildings regs twits are also to blame, stupid positioning, ugly, no space even to park one car easily let alone 2 or so that most modern families use. disgusting,all they are after is the fees and council tax.

 

[badger nadgers]

get it from the sky

Indeed, if you've got a nice clean roof to collect it with and a nice clean tank to store it in and you only need it on the ground floor. Okay for the livestock though.

 

[badger nadgers]

of course there is such a thing as a ram pump don't need electric just the water to power it

Might work better where there is a fall of water rather than on a moorlands plateau. Thanks for the information!

 

[waterpoweredtek]

Might work better where there is a fall of water rather than on a moorlands plateau. Thanks for the information though!

Ram pumps (including our papa pumps) don't need much fall, do get in contact with us and we can do a free desktop survey to see if a Papa Pump would be viable for you

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[Fendt516profi]

Power went off 3 times yesterday , no electric fence and can't even fuel the tractor because of welsh regulations making us have a fuel station.
No problem in the house, just keep putting a block in the burners and kettle on the top

12volt transfer pump out of top of tank

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

12volt transfer pump out of top of tank

Yep have thought of that and we've got a pump here somewhere.
It just struck me on Saturday during one of the power cuts that I couldn't fill the tractor because some person with no sense decided I had to have a fuel station and become even more reliant on electric instead of using gravity

 

[fermerboy]

We were off 3pm Friday, and luckily back on yesterday afternoon, so 72hrs. I have various friends who are still without power, and no likelyhood of being back on till the weekend at best.
We have a 10kva tractor genny and a 2.5kva Honda petrol jobbie, so both farmhouses are covered. The petrol one wont handle the microwave or kettle but does heating, lights and telly.
Both houses have old oil Rayburns so really there was not much coming over us.

But I messed up spectacularly on Sunday night, the petrol genny ran out and I broke the cardinal rule and filled it up while still hot, pulled the cord and woof, massive fireball with a half full jerry can of super unleaded right beside it. Managed to pull the power lead and drag it away a bit and managed to get it out with some water pails, but shes fried, along with my jacket sleeve. Fire extinguisher was only yards away but forgot in the panic!
I got a big big scare I can tell you!!

So people be bloody careful with petrol and hot engines!!!

 

[Kevm]

4 days with no electric which is our only form of heating or any energy, a complete shambles it will be a disaster when everything is electric without major work on the electric distribution network. I personally cannot see it happening . They will need wires everywhere . Has anyone worked out the requirement at peak times, reckon the wires will be glowing or losing volts. UNLESS WE CAN. GO WIRELESS

Yeah and we wont be allowed dirty diesel or petrol engines on generators you will have to have an electric powered generator
Oh hang on.... will that work?

 

[Chae1]

12volt transfer pump out of top of tank

We have a ibc with 12v pump in it for filling combine. Has been handy last few days when electric off. Also handy when main tank runs dry on a Friday and can't get delivery till following week.

 

[steveR]

Yeah and we wont be allowed dirty diesel or petrol engines on generators you will have to have an electric powered generator
Oh hang on.... will that work?

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[The Seeker]

Having been totally reliant on a small Petrol generator to power afew select items in the house and a log drive to keep the kids warm it’s actually frightening how near we could be to a total melt down of society , no oil = nothing. Local council was on fb today saying how a old couple had been given a small grant to buy an air source heat pump the catch was they had to physically remove the log burner to get the grant , so now they have no heat as the pump needs electric and it’s zero degrees so that’s no help - what a mess, at what point will people realised it’s not one peg fits all solution . Windy places turbines sunny places solar ect don’t try to force it on people.

 

[The Seeker]

Btw I think there lots of ways we could live with a reduction but it will take time as our whole society’s built itself around it !

 

[glasshouse]

Having been totally reliant on a small Petrol generator to power afew select items in the house and a log drive to keep the kids warm it’s actually frightening how near we could be to a total melt down of society , no oil = nothing. Local council was on fb today saying how a old couple had been given a small grant to buy an air source heat pump the catch was they had to physically remove the log burner to get the grant , so now they have no heat as the pump needs electric and it’s zero degrees so that’s no help - what a mess, at what point will people realised it’s not one peg fits all solution . Windy places turbines sunny places solar ect don’t try to force it on people.

Thank god i didnt go for heat pump
Fitting in oil aga tomorrow