Strange how things happen???

Thomas5060

Member
Livestock Farmer
Some of these northern Irish trailers that are flooding the market are a disgrace

there was someone on here who had to re route and re wire the electrics on a brand new one because they where codged on with house hold connectors
Definitely, too many people think they can build trailers when they really canā€™t. Some NI built trailers are some of the best you will buy, some you wouldnā€™t wish on your worst enemy
 

Ashtree

Member
I thing the well known Northern Irish brands of trailers, or any other agriculture gear are all pretty much top notch.
I just cannot imagine any of the known brand manufactures would use rubbish household electric connectors. I suspect in the case mentioned above, there is either fake news, or a dodgy back street manufacturing operation, pulling a fast one.
 

David1968

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
SW Scotland
What would you need as parts for a trailer from the manufacturers? Itā€™s either been drilled, pressed, folded or welded or bought in components!! All available for half the price elsewhere
Had a silage panel wrecked on a shed roof. For speed, we (and the dealer) naively assumed they'd be able to pull one off the production line and stick it on the next lorry coming over. But they changed the spec at some point and don't seem to keep a note of what the old spec was, or the serial no when it was changed.
After much e-mailing back and forward with measurements and photos we still haven't got it.

And yes, maybe we could have got it made cheaper, but I'm not paying for it. It was out on loan.
 

Dave W

Member
Location
chesterfield
Had a silage panel wrecked on a shed roof. For speed, we (and the dealer) naively assumed they'd be able to pull one off the production line and stick it on the next lorry coming over. But they changed the spec at some point and don't seem to keep a note of what the old spec was, or the serial no when it was changed.
After much e-mailing back and forward with measurements and photos we still haven't got it.

And yes, maybe we could have got it made cheaper, but I'm not paying for it. It was out on loan.
I doubt you'd have got on much better with any of the big manufacturers whatever nationality.
I doubt Stewart or Bailey will keep stock of obsolete body panels.
 

David1968

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
SW Scotland
I doubt you'd have got on much better with any of the big manufacturers whatever nationality.
I doubt Stewart or Bailey will keep stock of obsolete body panels.
We didn't realise it was obsolete when we ordered it. But it was more that they didn't seem to have the old spec on file somewhere, or even know when they changed them.
 

Fendt516profi

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
Had a silage panel wrecked on a shed roof. For speed, we (and the dealer) naively assumed they'd be able to pull one off the production line and stick it on the next lorry coming over. But they changed the spec at some point and don't seem to keep a note of what the old spec was, or the serial no when it was changed.
After much e-mailing back and forward with measurements and photos we still haven't got it.

And yes, maybe we could have got it made cheaper, but I'm not paying for it. It was out on loan.
You charging the guy it was on loan to for a hire trailer till yours is sorted too?
 

delilah

Member
What utter tosh! He built to be the best. The CE is just a standard .

Apologies, perhaps I didn't word it very well, he built the first hydraulic tipping trailer the country had seen, by its very nature it was experimental, he would have had to play about with all manner of prototypes to get it right, some of those and the manner in which he single handedly built them would be frowned at today.
 

Bloders

Member
Location
Ruabon
CE conformity doesn't mean a thing is fit for purpose all it means is that the the techniques the manufacturer has used have been inspected and they are satisfactory. So indeed that CE stamped trailer may have its hinges properly welded on but they could also be only half the size they need to be. CE doesn't cover design or material selection.
I disagree.
To CE mark a product, you go through a process which, if done correctly (it rarely is) results in a machine which is fit for purpose and of adequate strength (in the example above) and assembled correctly.
CE marking has nothing to do with external inspection, unless your building Annex IV machines (which a trailer is not)

CE marking is a formalised method of common sense. Nothing more.
 

shumungus

Member
Livestock Farmer
I disagree.
To CE mark a product, you go through a process which, if done correctly (it rarely is) results in a machine which is fit for purpose and of adequate strength (in the example above) and assembled correctly.
CE marking has nothing to do with external inspection, unless your building Annex IV machines (which a trailer is not)

CE marking is a formalised method of common sense. Nothing more.
Its all in interpretation as the attached web page shows CE marking is a self certification process. I know a firm well does general welding/repairs and cnc work, has 5 employees. Boss / workshop foreman went on a 3 day CE course, passed it and is now qualified to inspect and CE mark their own stuff.
What CE is:
The training:
 

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