straw based pigs. ideas to stop dunning in lying area

Pinnfield

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Livestock Farmer
I think it’s just a Lloyd’s thing! they’ve been a shower of :poop: to deal with for the last 8 years. I just thought I’d see what they offered whilst my usual guy crunches some numbers.
I have only ever banked with Llyods but on our last major dealings with them I started to wonder about others, 3 different consultants from start to finish and a serious lack of knowledge towards the livestock sector, we got there in the end and all was ok but several f..ks put in to a few conversations over delays
 

Mad For Muck

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Location
Midlands
I have only ever banked with Llyods but on our last major dealings with them I started to wonder about others, 3 different consultants from start to finish and a serious lack of knowledge towards the livestock sector, we got there in the end and all was ok but several f..ks put in to a few conversations over delays

It is like banging your head against a wall with them especially due to the massive lack of knowledge & understanding as you say. Doesn’t help the ‘managers’ don’t really listen so you go round in circles for days & they then come back with something completely different to what you asked them to quote for. Be interesting to see what the others we’ve approached come back with compared to Lloyd’s offer.
 
Whilst I think they are all a shower, I’ve been lucky that I’ve had two female Barclays managers who were a farmers daughter and a farmers wife in the past and so there is a background knowledge of what is being discussed. The pigs was seen as a safe bet having other clients who were doing similar
 

Avek

Member
Livestock Farmer
Try to get them ‘trained’ early by keeping the bedding area clean and dry and the muck passage relatively dirty (by forking out after scraping & only scrape when necessary in the first few weeks).
Big pigs in July & August want a muddy puddle to lie in - if they don’t have access to one they will make their own!
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How can I do this?
 
I have been trying similar and whilst its a winter rather than a summer batch, they do see to be keeping cleaner so far with the exception of a couple of pens. I have been deliberately not scraping tight to the outside wall so that some muck remains so that hopefully they know where the muck area is. I have also switched to scraping dirty material off the bed after scraping the passage. I have been putting a handful of feed on the straw area opposite the feeder (where they had been mucking) and they are now not mucking there. So far, so good.
 

Hjwise

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Mixed Farmer
I have been trying similar and whilst its a winter rather than a summer batch, they do see to be keeping cleaner so far with the exception of a couple of pens. I have been deliberately not scraping tight to the outside wall so that some muck remains so that hopefully they know where the muck area is. I have also switched to scraping dirty material off the bed after scraping the passage. I have been putting a handful of feed on the straw area opposite the feeder (where they had been mucking) and they are now not mucking there. So far, so good.
I would agree with above 🙄
I got caught out a bit this batch by having the curtain on the clean side open a bit too much in the cold weather. Been able to clean them up now, but only as the weather has been cool. When warm it’s a bit like a ratchet - only goes one way!
 

snarling bee

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
We were advised to use a mini digger to clean out and to soak the shed/muck with a few tankers of clean water. Both bits of advice were sound. We had intended buying a skidsteer but the small ones that go under a walkway wouldnt have the lift we need. We are using a tractor to scrape out and a mini-digger seems the best for cleaning out - for us.
Our mini skid steer has plenty of lift. Its the grip we struggle with.
 

Pinnfield

Member
Livestock Farmer
Ours went to pot when we hit high twenty’s a few weeks ago, weather has been so variable since then, but they start going next week 😊
 

Daniel

Member
Please disregard any of my previous advice on keeping pigs clean in the summer. If you catch me attempting to give such advice again please feel free to come round and punch me in the face repeatedly.

To be honest, I found keeping fat pigs in pens of 40 through the summer months to be less pleasurable than being repeatedly punched in the face.
 

Hjwise

Member
Mixed Farmer
To be honest, I found keeping fat pigs in pens of 40 through the summer months to be less pleasurable than being repeatedly punched in the face.
At 9 ‘o’clock this morning I couldn’t have agreed more. Last summer I swore that I would convert the other two sheds to double pens (mucked out with loader) but all is forgotten in the winter months. If I fail to convert them this winter I swear that I will repeatedly poke myself in the face with a muck fork.
 

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