Straw Values

[Jerry]

I think you will find that Jerry lives/farms in the Kenn valley... Living near the River Exe thus doesn't give him the right to say his lamb is born/ reared in the Exe valley as he doesn't farm in the Exe valley..

Nope. Not in the kenn Valley. Other side of a sodding great hill to me.

I’m firmly in the Exe valley. All water off my farm runs down to the Exe directly.

I can stand in nearly all my fields and look directly down onto the Exe

cant see the kenn from anywhere in the farm unless I was probably hovering 1000 feet in the air.

End off.

 

[Campbell]

Over this way last night W/Wheat £92 and S/Barley 67

 

[DeeGee]

Only odd people want round bales .
I can't give them away

I’ll have them please, and don’t call me ‘odd’!
Can you deliver them as well please?
Yours,
Steve Strange.

 

[lloyd]

Nope. Not in the kenn Valley. Other side of a sodding great hill to me.

I’m firmly in the Exe valley. All water off my farm runs down to the Exe directly.

I can stand in nearly all my fields and look directly down onto the Exe

cant see the kenn from anywhere in the farm unless I was probably hovering 1000 feet in the air.

End off.

You can't be right there can be no way you know where
you farm

 

[puntabrava]

No need to be so aggressive in all your posts

I have baled plenty of good and bad crops of Wheat in my time and know when they are 2 tonne plus and when they are 1/ 1.5 ton acre, this year I have seen both walking standing straw.

I would doubt you have ever been near a weighbridge in your life with straw. You procrastinate bollllloks as far as I am concerned.

 

[john63]

We let a good lot of our wheat, barley and oat straw for £10/ac. Does it sound too cheap?

 

[gone up the hill]

I would doubt you have ever been near a weighbridge in your life with straw. You procrastinate bollllloks as far as I am concerned.

I have put plenty of straw over a weighbridge so sadly for you I know what im talking about but of course my straw was baled and weighed 100% dry unlike some loads that come via straw dealers...

 

[gone up the hill]

We let a good lot of our wheat, barley and oat straw for £10/ac. Does it sound too cheap?

Yes its worth at least £30 acre in organic matter alone if chopped.

( and I hate seeing straw chopped with a passion )

 

[fieldfarmer]

We let a good lot of our wheat, barley and oat straw for £10/ac. Does it sound too cheap?

Where are you, stuck in 1970?

 

[Brisel]

We let a good lot of our wheat, barley and oat straw for £10/ac. Does it sound too cheap?

Far too cheap! Read this and follow the link near the bottom of the page.

https://ahdb.org.uk/news/chop-or-shop-is-it-better-to-incorporate-or-sell-straw

 

[bernie the bolt]

somerset w/w average £ 92 W/b £ 115

 

[yellow belly]

Imho straw round here is too cheap to bale if your soil can cope with it
the nitrogen phospate and potash in the straw is worthcost more to replace
the Ahdb and many other do not value the nitrogen in the straw but I have land that has had 20 years or straw incorporation a and can now see there is a benefit compared to baleing
it is hard to measure by analysis but putting back the 30 to 50 kg of n in the straw must help
but you need Over winter cover crops to mop up the nitrogen if growing a spring crop or plant an early winter crop
imho if planting in late October a lot of the residual nitrogen is lost down the drain in a wet winter

 

[beefandsleep]

Imho straw round here is too cheap to bale if your soil can cope with it
the nitrogen phospate and potash in the straw is worthcost more to replace
the Ahdb and many other do not value the nitrogen in the straw but I have land that has had 20 years or straw incorporation a and can now see there is a benefit compared to baleing
it is hard to measure by analysis but putting back the 30 to 50 kg of n in the straw must help
but you need Over winter cover crops to mop up the nitrogen if growing a spring crop or plant an early winter crop
imho if planting in late October a lot of the residual nitrogen is lost down the drain in a wet winter

I was under the impression that straw had very little N in it and actually required N to break down properly, locking N up in the soil organic matter.

 

[Sid]

I was under the impression that straw had very little N in it and actually required N to break down properly, locking N up in the soil organic matter.

It would lock up the N to start with , but then slow release it as it breaks down

 

[Sid]

Friend was telling me about carrot growers who put on 20t of straw an acre as frost protection, they have to pile on the N, it was a massive amount, for the next crop as the straw soaks up any available N.
The N is still there in the OM and is released over the next number of years.

 

[yellow belly]

I was under the impression that straw had very little N in it and actually required N to break down properly, locking N up in the soil organic matter.

Look at Ahdb wheat or barley guide the straw roots and char contains some nitrogen
a 8 tonne ha yield ha a similar amount of straw roots and chaf half can be baled the rest goes into the total non grain biomass from the crop contains 80 kg of n not enough to keep the c/n ratio right
but selling straw takes some n away along with other nutrients we have to utilise it before it is lost to the drains
I believe the victorians understood this better than we have done since the cheap bag of n was available
now with n at 50p a kg or more compared to under 10 p in the 20thieth century
just an diesel is now 45p a litre compared to 5p in the mid 20tieth c

imho a cover crop can cover its cost in nutrients and drainage

 

[thorpe]

We let a good lot of our wheat, barley and oat straw for £10/ac. Does it sound too cheap?

yes.

 

[Hesston4860s]

We let a good lot of our wheat, barley and oat straw for £10/ac. Does it sound too cheap?

It‘s worth about 30 quid an ac IF there’s a decent crop on it ie 2 ton an acre, that’s 6 120x70 quads at a fiver a bale !.

 

[Brisel]

Anyone go to the Durweston standing straw auction near Blandford on Friday?

 

[Sid]

Anyone go to the Durweston standing straw auction near Blandford on Friday?

Or the one over at Seaton?