Straw

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Is it right that there's hardly any winter crops in and straw will be expensive this winter coming?

The amount of winter crops sown varies by area. Northumberland upwards and on the lighter land of the chalk downs, you'd struggle to notice any difference from usual. Go the heavier land of Northants, Leics, Rutland & Lincs & there's very little sown. Bearing in mind that most of the eastern counties run straw choppers anyway I don't see a major problem. What will alter the market dynamics this year will be possible lower straw yields on winter crops if the spring doesn't arrive soon, some regular sellers without much planted & there needs to be some new guys turning straw choppers off to cover the gap. Yes, I think prices will rise this year. If grain yields are down, I would think that more straw will be swathed to help balance the budgets, especially if the June straw auction prices are above the average.

Cattle price will, of course, rise to cover the increased bedding costs ?

Oh no, wait, bugger

And downwards??

I was being facetious in reply to the comment quoted above. Supply and demand will determine price, nothing more than that. Straw and grain prices are not closely correlated. There's a reasonable correlation between meat prices and grain but that's more to do with export competitiveness on the back of currency strength.
 

rob h

Member
Location
east yorkshire
Will be short supply round here. We have nothing drilled yet and most farms are the same.not a straw chopping area normally as there are a lot of pigs around the rest goes either to power station or north for cattle.we have a barn full of straw witch will be going 2 miles as nephew has pigs and is buying now even though he has plenty for now but allready knows with spring cropping he won't have enough next year.olso know of anouther doing the same.
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
spoke to our supplier today, he is buying now, for next winter, some farm he usually buys from, have nothing in the ground, 1 x1200 acre farm 0 sown. Trouble is, if the weather doesn't alter soon, spring crops will be late drilled as well.
 
Location
Devon
The amount of winter crops sown varies by area. Northumberland upwards and on the lighter land of the chalk downs, you'd struggle to notice any difference from usual. Go the heavier land of Northants, Leics, Rutland & Lincs & there's very little sown. Bearing in mind that most of the eastern counties run straw choppers anyway I don't see a major problem. What will alter the market dynamics this year will be possible lower straw yields on winter crops if the spring doesn't arrive soon, some regular sellers without much planted & there needs to be some new guys turning straw choppers off to cover the gap. Yes, I think prices will rise this year. If grain yields are down, I would think that more straw will be swathed to help balance the budgets, especially if the June straw auction prices are above the average.





I was being facetious in reply to the comment quoted above. Supply and demand will determine price, nothing more than that. Straw and grain prices are not closely correlated. There's a reasonable correlation between meat prices and grain but that's more to do with export competitiveness on the back of currency strength.

More people will chop this year for the following reason's

1 : Harvest will be later than normal

2 : Most farms have seed grain for last autumn which is still in the bag, this will have to be drilled this autumn come what may so take into account that harvest will be later than most years they will be chomping at the bit to drill come Sept if its dry so they will wont want the hassle of straw being left in the swath and getting wet!

Around here a month ago the winter crops that did get drilled last autumn looked decent all things considered, now most of them look utterly shocking and are disappearing by the day, just been far too wet for far too long!

Straw will be very short next winter as things currently stand!
 
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Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
Another potential wobbly is a few folk here in East Midlands are considering a change to establishment technique for oilseed rape - one last throw of the dice! Rather than bale and then sow, going to autocast with fert spreader into standing crop , chop straw and then roll. I know a few folk who let the baler boys have a few hundred acre each year just to clear for rape sowing.
 

DRC

Member
A lot of undrilled land in Shropshire, with many acres still underwater. What has been drilled is looking terrible and can’t get on to spread fertiliser unless on the lightest fields . Unless it dries up soon, any spring crops on heavy land, will be a waste of time. I’m hanging onto what’s in the barn as the few loads I’ve already sold have been too cheap I think.
Chatting to someone in the midlands on heavy ground, that has drilled 6 acres out of 900.
 

Hfd Cattle

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hereford
Can't see eastern farmers baling up straw to sell again . The NFU encouraged this a few yrs ago and they were left with huge stacks they couldn't get rid of . The most important thing to the arable farmer is his ability to get on with the next crop and not worry about the logistics of baling up and waiting for straw to be moved .
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
It will be what it will be.

Seen panic buying in the shops due to coronovirus and now it's going to be straw?

Farming systems need to be more resilient and flexible to climatic factors.

There has been even less rape planted this year so more cereals so more straw?
 

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