Straw

[DRC]

It will be what it will be.

Seen panic buying in the shops due to coronovirus and now it's going to be straw?

Farming systems need to be more resilient and flexible to climatic factors.

There has been even less rape planted this year so more cereals so more straw?

More fallow or very late spring wheat/ barley

 

[kiwi pom]

After a very wet autumn and winter, you might get a dry one this time so stock can stay out

 

[DrDunc]

Stores already have

Aye, store cattle are back up in price to nearly what they were 10 years ago ?

Straw was £40 a tonne delivered then ?

 

[Sid]

After a very wet autumn and winter, you might get a dry one this time so stock can stay out

It's been a mild winter

 

[Dave645]

I talked to a few near me the dealers are buying in straw in my area because they know the area has very little WW crops in and it’s going to be short.

we did get all the WW we wanted in we are 50% spring normaly now to allow for winter fallow on strong land, but what’s in is unhappy lower leaves are cover in mud, just from rain spash.
Spring wheat for us and our experience is starting to slip away from 3T plus crops already, while it’s not impossible from this point the chances are dropping as is the straw length, if we had a repeat of what we had a few years ago, wet late drilling followed by the hot dry season even now 3T to acre would be a Pipe dream.

I will note the people behind

https://ahdb.org.uk/cereals-oilseeds-markets
Think the early bird crop report that says 95% of winter crops were drilled are accurate lol, I thing they are delusional at best, maybe yes for oil seed rape but nothing else.
In our area with strong land I would say as little as 25% was drilled before January, we are maybe at 45% where the silt warp farmers have got some late WW in as of now. (All had to plough and combi drill)

my area is going to be short on straw unless we see a big improvement in the weather and spring and summer play nice. Spring drilled wheat is often late cut and is often then chopped to save time especially if The field was due to go in for OSR.
at the moment everything points in my area at low straw harvest levels Just from a straw yield point of view. Spring crops especially late drilled often end up very short in the straw.

 

[Lazy Eric]

Another potential wobbly is a few folk here in East Midlands are considering a change to establishment technique for oilseed rape - one last throw of the dice! Rather than bale and then sow, going to autocast with fert spreader into standing crop , chop straw and then roll. I know a few folk who let the baler boys have a few hundred acre each year just to clear for rape sowing.

That sounds like a haven for slugs! Seen it done a few times with straw removed and works quite well . Isn’t there an issue with the availability of sprays for that technique?

 

[livestock 1]

Stores already have

I haven’t been to any store cattle sales since January. Have they lifted?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Sraw job is mad always has been from the time i used too ride in the old Bedford with dad

 

[lloyd]

More people will chop this year for the following reason's

1 : Harvest will be later than normal

2 : Most farms have seed grain for last autumn which is still in the bag, this will have to be drilled this autumn come what may so take into account that harvest will be later than most years they will be chomping at the bit to drill come Sept if its dry so they will wont want the hassle of straw being left in the swath and getting wet!

Around here a month ago the winter crops that did get drilled last autumn looked decent all things considered, now most of them look utterly shocking and are disappearing by the day, just been far too wet for far too long!

Straw will be very short next winter as things currently stand!

I can't see that many chopping straw if the weather forecast is
good around harvest and the price of straw is on fire.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I can't see that many chopping straw if the weather forecast is
good around harvest and the price of straw is on fire.

Its on fire now. Could not give it away in November

 

[Paul E]

It's been a mild winter

Mild has sod all to do with it.
It's the wet that makes the issue.

 

[Princess Pooper]

I talked to a few near me the dealers are buying in straw in my area because they know the area has very little WW crops in and it’s going to be short.

we did get all the WW we wanted in we are 50% spring normaly now to allow for winter fallow on strong land, but what’s in is unhappy lower leaves are cover in mud, just from rain spash.
Spring wheat for us and our experience is starting to slip away from 3T plus crops already, while it’s not impossible from this point the chances are dropping as is the straw length, if we had a repeat of what we had a few years ago, wet late drilling followed by the hot dry season even now 3T to acre would be a Pipe dream.

I will note the people behind

https://ahdb.org.uk/cereals-oilseeds-markets
Think the early bird crop report that says 95% of winter crops were drilled are accurate lol, I thing they are delusional at best, maybe yes for oil seed rape but nothing else.
In our area with strong land I would say as little as 25% was drilled before January, we are maybe at 45% where the silt warp farmers have got some late WW in as of now. (All had to plough and combi drill)

my area is going to be short on straw unless we see a big improvement in the weather and spring and summer play nice. Spring drilled wheat is often late cut and is often then chopped to save time especially if The field was due to go in for OSR.
at the moment everything points in my area at low straw harvest levels Just from a straw yield point of view. Spring crops especially late drilled often end up very short in the straw.

This might be an interesting post if ' a clue as to my area' was in your profile.

 

[lloyd]

There will certainly be little OSR straw available because
half the crop was taken out by flea beetle and the other
half alot of Kerb was applied which means the straw has to be chopped.

 

[lloyd]

It will be interesting to see what some 4ft round
bales of straw make at auction next week.
Last sale about 3weeks ago made £18 a bale .

 

[jondear]

It will be what it will be.

Seen panic buying in the shops due to coronovirus and now it's going to be straw?

Farming systems need to be more resilient and flexible to climatic factors.

There has been even less rape planted this year so more cereals so more straw?

Bit like the government telling people not to panic buy !What do they do now PANIC buy!

 

[Chuckie]

I filled everywhere up before Christmas at £60/tonne delivered. That's the cheapest it's been for ages.

 

[Sid]

Bit like the government telling people not to panic buy !What do they do now PANIC buy!

And then prices rise...and drop lower than they were before.

 

[Raggy]

I've already had two enquiries from farmers who previously have had just an odd field in the past. Both of them want the whole farm. Winter or Spring. Wheat or Barley. Straw will definitely be in short supply around here. I haven't a clue how much I am going to ask for it......

 

[Brisel]

There will certainly be little OSR straw available because
half the crop was taken out by flea beetle and the other
half alot of Kerb was applied which means the straw has to be chopped.

How much osr straw is actually baled? Very little done around here until last year’s early season rush to buy whatever was available. I appreciate that it’s going to be more common in livestock areas and where people have straw walker combines.

 

[Tarw Coch]

How much osr straw is actually baled? Very little done around here until last year’s early season rush to buy whatever was available. I appreciate that it’s going to be more common in livestock areas and where people have straw walker combines.

Not a lot baled around here on the west of Shropshire where a lot of straw is sold in the swath to livestock farms, I can’t think of any of the sales of straw in the swath that I’ve seen that offer their rape straw.