Strip till versus no till

[simonk88]

We run to some fairly steep slopes, as in everything in the cab slides when you turn round, and they are mostly clay (Eastern Wolds Edge). The DTS has been very helpful in getting the soil in a condition to take DD, and ourselves in a mindset to understand DD. The bottom land which is mostly clay over peat, or silt over peat works well with a reduced tillage system and we can now go to the next step. There is no possible way that just changing from conventional tillage to DD would have worked here, unless there was a long time frame in which it to come right, especially when you have to show some return on investment to a board (albeit understanding and supportive) each year.

 

[Heathland]

Well I've just spent most of the day with Jeff Claydon,and what informative day its been.
Till you have a look at his farm and see the soil conditions,its incredible,seeing is believing.
Its all very well looking at fancy kit at shows all pristine and shiny but to go and look around a farm and see it used in action is another thing and the long term benefits is a real eye opener.

Thank you Jeff for showing me around your farm and factory and for your great hospitality.

@Brisel haven't ordered one yet!

 

[Brisel]

You had a lucky escape - Jeff doesn’t normally let you leave without buying something

 

[Heathland]

You had a lucky escape - Jeff doesn’t normally let you leave without buying something

Some body needs to get a pencil sharpener,was thinking about a t4 trailed ££££ even using their calculator still takes some head scratching.

How are you getting on, are you seeing an improvement in your soil yet?,it was incredible too see all his worms.

 

[Brisel]

Lots of steel in a trailed model. I was quoted £102k for a 6m trailed with the big hopper in 2015. The 6m mounted was nearly half that.

I haven’t “measured” the soil as such yet, but wheat yields are up slightly and spring crops are down no thanks to a run of late springs followed by long dry spells. It’s a great drill for osr and beans.

 

[SilliamWhale]

Lots of steel in a trailed model. I was quoted £102k for a 6m trailed with the big hopper in 2015. The 6m mounted was nearly half that.

I haven’t “measured” the soil as such yet, but wheat yields are up slightly and spring crops are down no thanks to a run of late springs followed by long dry spells. It’s a great drill for osr and beans.

£102k? for a 6m drill? Jesus christ - whats that worth after 1 season? 70k?

 

[Brisel]

£102k? for a 6m drill? Jesus christ - whats that worth after 1 season? 70k?

I doubt it. Far less I’d imagine. What would a car be worth after you’d just driven it off the forecourt? 1/3 loss in value instantly is common.

 

[redsloe]

I doubt it. Far less I’d imagine. What would a car be worth after you’d just driven it off the forecourt? 1/3 loss in value instantly is common.

I imagine most of us would be happy to buy a second hand one! Good luck needed finding one!?

 

[TWF]

Strip till, in no particular order;
Claydon Hybrid
Mzuri Pro Till
Sumo DTS (can you swap the rear toolbar for a DD gang on a trailed machine in future??)
Horsch Focus TD

No till tine;
Dale
Seedhawk (rare older machines over here)
Aitchison T Sem
Modified Horsch CO/Sprinter
Virkar Dynamic with leading disc
Amazone Cayena, Primera, Condor

No till disc;
JD 750A
Horsch Avatar
Moore Unidrill/Sumo Versadrill/Sky Easydrill
Weaving GD
Ryetec MAAG SSP
Kuhn SD/Aurock
Primewest Cross Slot
Novag T Force Plus
MF130
Bettinson TC3 (showing my age here!)

No Slyboss then ?

 

[Heathland]

I imagine most of us would be happy to buy a second hand one! Good luck needed finding one!?

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They you go @Brisel just what the doctor ordered!
Wish it was a 4m

 

[Kiwi Pete]

if you want to come and have a look around / chat you are always welcome

key is not to focus on the machinery and think carefully about rotation / nutrition and organic matter

Your comment reminds me of this

which as you know is remarkably close to the mark!
I think strip-till would be a good leg-in to full no-till in your climate and soils, not quite so popular down here but the soils are generally either very fresh - or else still getting cultivated.

Big +1, the tools don't really make a massive difference but nutrition and rotations, covercrop choices etc make massive differences to outcomes

 

[Brisel]

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They you go @Brisel just what the doctor ordered!
Wish it was a 4m

Oooh! Not far from me either. One careful operator @fred.950 ?

 

[Brisel]

No Slyboss then ?

I forgot. Also no StripCat. Boss has undergone a bit of a change recently. The French side is marketed via Agrisem in yellow paint but is the same. George Sly is going to be marketing his own version as Horizon Agriculture. @fleetg knows more about that than me.

 

[fred.950]

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They you go @Brisel just what the doctor ordered!
Wish it was a 4m

We can cut a bit off either side if you want!?

 

[fred.950]

Oooh! Not far from me either. One careful operator @fred.950 ?

It’s done such a good job at improving our soil we don’t need it anymore!

 

[Heathland]

We can cut a bit off either side if you want!?

The money I'd save over a new drill, I could afford a bigger tractor to pull it??.

 

[fred.950]

The money I'd save over a new drill, I could afford a bigger tractor to pull it??.

I can probably negotiate a small TFF discount as well