Stubble to stubble rates

[midlandslad]

What are people currently charging/being charged for a simple stubble to stubble operation on combinable cropping land?

 

[teslacoils]

I'll get the

 

[Brisel]

Define simple. Just arable operations? Hedge cutting? Grain drying & storage? Agronomy? Admin e.g. Red Tractor? Crop rotation? Straw policy? Muck spreading?

 

[Steevo]

Define simple. Just arable operations? Hedge cutting? Grain drying & storage? Agronomy? Admin e.g. Red Tractor? Crop rotation? Straw policy? Muck spreading?

Yes

 

[Brisel]

Yes

 

[teslacoils]

£150/AC if you want it to look tidy and see soil move. That would get you a fleet of high hp gear, Bateman, lexion combination.

 

[Brisel]

£150 sounds about average for strong land needing a plough at least rotationally. Some lower rates for DD systems and lighter soils. No management, storage, agronomy etc in that.

 

[teslacoils]

That's if you want to do nothing. For £150 I'd expect my yard bloody tidy, rats eradicated, and all the little annoying jobs that I think I would do myself but in reality wouldn't.

And moling as needed. And hedges. But probably not ditching.

 

[Spencer]

Straw baling, carting/stacking/ loading out?

 

[horizontal]

No money to be made by the contractor at £150/ac. That’s for sure even if it’s an easy working farm with just the basics.

 

[Chae1]

No money to be made by the contractor at £150/ac. That’s for sure even if it’s an easy working farm with just the basics.

Easy working farm?

Plough £20/acre
Drill/£25 acre
Roll £5/acre
Spray x4 £20
Fert x 2 £10
Combine £40
£120/acre total

What am I missing?

 

[snarling bee]

Profit

 

[snarling bee]

Spray x 7 or 8
Fert x 3 or 4
Grain cart

 

[Chae1]

Profit

Still got £30/acre on £150.

Got all the kit anyway. Just be a few extra days work.

 

[teslacoils]

Easy working farm?

Plough £20/acre
Drill/£25 acre
Roll £5/acre
Spray x4 £20
Fert x 2 £10
Combine £40
£120/acre total

What am I missing?

The extras to get to £150:

Load in, push up, load out, hedge cutting, general tidying, insurance, three more spray passes.

Granted, rolling, spraying, spreading are only really costing £1.50/AC.

 

[Chae1]

The extras to get to £150:

Load in, push up, load out, hedge cutting, general tidying, insurance, three more spray passes.

Granted, rolling, spraying, spreading are only really costing £1.50/AC.

You guys must spray a lot more than we do up here. I have only sprayed winter barley 3x will get glyphosate. So 4 total.

Most spring barley just 2 passes.

It says stubble to stubble, I'm just tipping it in shed. Not load it out again or tidying up.

 

[teslacoils]

Winter barley would be pre drill glypho, two herbicides, three fungicides, glypho again. Subsoil, disc& press, roll, drill, roll. Three passes fert to include p&k. Cut, cart, push up. Not light land though. For wheat add a pass of fert and spray.

Tbh spring barley on light land will be much less work.

I get someone in for the cutting, draught work. Keep the easy bits.

 

[jon9000]

Don't forget a management fee 25 quid and a profit.

150 quid all in.

 

[glasshouse]

If someone else is doing all the work, your subsidy should be stopped

 

[Chris W]

If someone else is doing all the work, your subsidy should be stopped

that depends on why you believe the subsidy is there to start with ..