Stubble Turnips - Grazing Rates (£)

[DRC]

its a 'market place'...i heard up to £1/wk/lamb last season

i've offered a neighbour £20/ac for bare land after harvest....i do all work ...supply seed fert...establish etc...plucked the figure outta thin air....not sure if i'm mad or not

£35/40 acre for bare land around here.
Otherwise £120 acre for a half decent crop or 60p head week for welsh sheep

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Its amazing how rates vary . Must be due to demand ,35 p would not cover growing costs

Completely dependent on when the crop is planted, the type of land and how many the grazer puts on.
Where the grazier is doing all the work and takes the sheep off when the arable man wants it then 35 to 40p is a sensible arrangement and easily covers growing costs.
Stubble turnips growing after Winter Barley planted in July on free draining land with a small amount of fertilizer can yield a significant amount of feed. The seed cost is low and if broadcast is also a low cost. Even if direct drilled the cost planted would be no more than £60.00 per acre.

On a good crop an acre will feed 250 hoggets for a week so £100 an acre for the arable man, he has a cover crop for the winter and the sheep have increased his fertility. Most arable farmers in this area want livestock but do not want to do anything themselves.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Completely dependent on when the crop is planted, the type of land and how many the grazer puts on.
Where the grazier is doing all the work and takes the sheep off when the arable man wants it then 35 to 40p is a sensible arrangement and easily covers growing costs.
Stubble turnips growing after Winter Barley planted in July on free draining land with a small amount of fertilizer can yield a significant amount of feed. The seed cost is low and if broadcast is also a low cost. Even if direct drilled the cost planted would be no more than £60.00 per acre.

On a good crop an acre will feed 250 hoggets for a week so £100 an acre for the arable man, he has a cover crop for the winter and the sheep have increased his fertility. Most arable farmers in this area want livestock but do not want to do anything themselves.

Must be area Dependant . I was getting £1 head week for S T 10 years ago and most around here on a £1 head week for grass now . Could let mine 10 times over

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Must be area Dependant . I was getting £1 head week for S T 10 years ago and most around here on a £1 head week for grass now . Could let mine 10 times over

No wonder the Welsh farmers are so hard up!!
I guess there aren't many large arable farms in Ceredigion though?
Down here the starting size these days is a couple of thousand acres of arable and not a fence or a water trough to be seen!! You wait until they tell you that you can graze the cover crops and by then its around the end of November, then they tell you that there is 500 acres and they want you off by latest end of February.

 

[spin cycle]

£35/40 acre for bare land around here.

I was told by a store lamb man who does a lot of stubble-stubble green crop that you don’t want too be paying much more than £12/acre for bare stubble. Much more than that and if it isn’t a tip top crop it’s dear feed. Although being next door is obviously worth something.

Good luck!!

sounds like i've pitched 'right side of middle'

 

[jack6480]

@RAF

 

[RAF]

Lucky get 40 p a week here

 

[Tim W]

I get bare land for free here then pay for seed/establishment myself
Or pay for seed and then pay 25p/week on top with the landowner drilling the crop

Most landowners are just keen to get some organic matter put into the land

 

[DanM]

Lucky get 40 p a week here

i believe an arable grower who knows what he’s doing, will still be making a profit selling turnips at 40p/head/week. With the shepherd providing fencing, all fence moves and responsibility for sheep. Important to team up with one who has healthy stock, that are fence trained and removes them when asked. Very easy to get drawn into talk of high keep rates, by individuals who don’t offer any of these then wonder why!

 

[Al R]

i believe an arable grower who knows what he’s doing, will still be making a profit selling turnips at 40p/head/week. With the shepherd providing fencing, all fence moves and responsibility for sheep. Important to team up with one who has healthy stock, that are fence trained and removes them when asked. Very easy to get drawn into talk of high keep rates, by individuals who don’t offer any of these then wonder why!

Removing sheep in April on early March, full of scab which in turn annoys all neighbours and then doesn’t pay

 

[Mc115reed]

Removing sheep in April on early March, full of scab which in turn annoys all neighbours and then doesn’t pay

You missed off and the only place they’ve grazed is everywhere outside of the fence line ...

 

[Will 1594]

@spin cycle ,we do s t for the well known ,sheep man ,he supplies seed , we put it in ,fert it ,spray if need be ,
he then send upto 1000 lambs , he is on a price for each month , goes up later he stays , will pm you the rates
pity you not nearer got 25 acre river banks ,you could use ,

 

[Anymulewilldo]

i believe an arable grower who knows what he’s doing, will still be making a profit selling turnips at 40p/head/week. With the shepherd providing fencing, all fence moves and responsibility for sheep. Important to team up with one who has healthy stock, that are fence trained and removes them when asked. Very easy to get drawn into talk of high keep rates, by individuals who don’t offer any of these then wonder why!

I pay a tiny bit more than that, only a bit. Around us there are lots of offers of big money every year. But as you say what our winter men want is someone who actually delivers on what is agreed!!
All through this winter one man has been telling me I’m not going too have his turnips eaten off by end of second week in April ready for Maize now. We got too the first week in March and dropped him another 800 hoggs off. Funnily enough he stopped mentioning it then and on the 14th April we set too and moved all the sheep from him as agreed. He’s as happy as you like now and won’t doubt me again (he says)

 

[Mc115reed]

Should be free [emoji28] sheep man is doing arable man a massive favour giving him all that free green manure

 

[CopperBeech]

Should be free [emoji28] sheep man is doing arable man a massive favour giving him all that free green manure

I love it when the competition has that attitude

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Lucky get 40 p a week here

How many would an acre keep . 60 ?
Would not cover the drilling cost

 

[RAF]

Tbf it comes to £55 acre . Turnips go in early after WB . And I feed them

 

[jackrussell101]

What would be a headage rate for stubble turnips this coming season?

Would 80p per head per week be about right?

Shepard has to electric fence and look them for that too?

 

[unlacedgecko]

What would be a headage rate for stubble turnips this coming season?

Would 80p per head per week be about right?

Shepard has to electric fence and look them for that too?

No margin in that. That's what I charge for fully serviced tack.

 

[neilo]

What would be a headage rate for stubble turnips this coming season?

Would 80p per head per week be about right?

Shepard has to electric fence and look them for that too?

A job to see how it could be much less tbh, given where N fertiliser is now.

Whether that is viable for the shepherd is a different matter unfortunately.