Sub-forum move request

[Highland Mule]

Given that the evidence is clear that UK livestock farming is a net consumer of carbon, should the livestock section not be moved to be under the 'Conservation Agriculture' banner? It's arguably far more sustainable than the chemical fertiliser utilising, direct drilled arable that has claimed the title !

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Interesting thoughts. On an extensively grazed, heather covered hill, exactly what resources are being inefficiently used? and what else could they be used for aside from sheep and native bred cattle?

You are of course totally correct in that situation. Personally I would far rather see that land in livestock production than forestry.
My personal opinion and I’m not sure which is best from the carbon perspective.

 

[Clive]

You are of course totally correct in that situation. Personally I would far rather see that land in livestock production than forestry.
My personal opinion and I’m not sure which is best from the carbon perspective.

forestry from a carbon point of view (more biomass will sequester more and won't create emissions like livestock can) ................... however we cant eat trees !

I think in the BIG future we will have to develop the vertical farming type systems to feed the sheer number of people on the planet and get protein from insects etc - free up land for sequestration

or develop machinery that "cleans" up the atmosphere/controls climate maybe ?

not what any of us want to hear as farmers I guess

 

[lloyd]

forestry from a carbon point of view (more biomass will sequester more and won't create emissions like livestock can) ................... however we cant eat trees !

I think in the BIG future we will have to develop the vertical farming type systems to feed the sheer number of people on the planet and get protein from insects etc - free up land for sequestration

or develop machinery that "cleans" up the atmosphere/controls climate maybe ?

not what any of us want to hear as farmers I guess

I hope your vineyards will be up and running by then as you will
need something to wash the insects down with.
Second thoughts vineyards are not very enviromentally friendly
so will have to be recycled tap water.

 

[Clive]

I hope your vineyards will be up and running by then as you will
need something to wash the insects down with.
Second thoughts vineyards are not very enviromentally friendly
so will have to be recycled tap water.

12m rows of vines / fruit trees with gene edited organic rye / wheats under-sown with clover living mulch treated with biological solutions giving yields double of today’s ?

sheds full of vertical farmed salads / veg insects and aquaculture - powered by solar ?

……… the future?

 

[lloyd]

12m rows of vines / fruit trees with gene edited organic rye / wheats under-sown with clover living mulch treated with biological solutions giving yields double of today’s ?

sheds full of vertical farmed salads / veg insects and aquaculture - powered by solar ?

……… the future?

Someone is experimenting with trees in a similar fashion in Herefordshire
and cropping inbetween .With today's machinery sounds a nightmare but
with robots in the near future who knows!

 

[Suffolk Serf]

12m rows of vines / fruit trees with gene edited organic rye / wheats under-sown with clover living mulch treated with biological solutions giving yields double of today’s ?

sheds full of vertical farmed salads / veg insects and aquaculture - powered by solar ?

……… the future?

I really would like to get my mitts on enough ground to mess about with some of that regenerative stuff. I tried and failed to buy some last year.
I must admit that I can't quite get my head around this solar powered vertical farming thing, when plants are pretty good at harnessing solar energy when outside. The figures probably do stack up if the produce is marketed well.