Subsoiler/Power Harrow Combination

[Andy26]

@not sure I think you meant to post this here:

Hello has anyone experience of using a subsoiler coupled to a power harrow ie. Lemken dolomit and power harrow? We currently use a vaderstad topdown. and then subsoil or press. but cant help thinking a power harrow coupled to a subsoiler would be a true stale seedbed maker and ready for weathering and drilling when conditions ideal?

 

[Andy26]

Would a Sumo Trio type machine not be better?

 

[Teejay]

Used to see a few shakerators with power harrows on the back.

 

[DX 3.90]

Yes we do!! Using a 4m shakerator with a kuhn powerharrow hung on the back! It works well for us, we tried a discerator a couple of years back thinking it might be easier to lift and pull, it was just as hard to lift and not a patch on the finish you get with our rig!
We're normally working at around 8"-10" and covering upto 70ac a day.

 

[Dman2]

Yes we do!! Using a 4m shakerator with a kuhn powerharrow hung on the back! It works well for us, we tried a discerator a couple of years back thinking it might be easier to lift and pull, it was just as hard to lift and not a patch on the finish you get with our rig!
We're normally working at around 8"-10" and covering upto 70ac a day.

What sort of speeds are you travelling
Looks a good seedbed

 

[not sure]

Thank you Andy26. I think i will get the hang of it. Dx3.90 Thet looks exactly as i am trying to achieve. do you use it on every acre ie. Following all crops?

 

[Quivogne UK]

Have got a few customers who use our SCD subsoiler coupled with power harrows. Here are a few pictures and hopefully a quick video of the one we dropped off to a customer last week

 

[DX 3.90]

Thank you Andy26. I think i will get the hang of it. Dx3.90 Thet looks exactly as i am trying to achieve. do you use it on every acre ie. Following all crops?

We've used this on every acre for last 6/7yrs, thats growing WW WB PEAS. It does leave a great seed bed, i find it sort of self regulates forward speed because in lighter ground it doesn't need working as much so i can travel at 10k and in some of our clay banks it'll pull it back to 5/6k but it gives the powerharrow time the break down the heavier soil.
We're currently drilling everything with a normal coulter drill, the future plans hopefully to acquire a low disturbance drill so we could keep stale seedbeds!

 

[Dman2]

Could you mount a drill on the back of the harrow?

 

[mf7480]

When the shearbolt goes does the leg swing back into the powerharrow.

 

[goodevans]

This must be the oldest resurrection but does any body mount a power harrow combi on the back of a low disturbance toolbar with tank on front of tractor

 

[Horn&corn]

Neighbours do. Df2 on front. Subsoiler bar (4legs?) 4m Pharrow with disc drill on the back fed with pipe from front.
crops look amazing. 310hp magnum. One man. Big rig to manoeuvre!

 

[goodevans]

Neighbours do. Df2 on front. Subsoiler bar (4legs?) 4m Pharrow with disc drill on the back fed with pipe from front.
crops look amazing. 310hp magnum. One man. Big rig to manoeuvre!

I was thinking more like 10 legs for that width at 6/7" deep,low disturbance but like very strong wheel iradicators or possibly simba st bar

 

[Andy26]

Soil loosening / subsoiler toolbar.

www.bramleysseedestablishment.co.uk

 

[Dman2]

@Bramleys

 

[bobk]

Yes we do!! Using a 4m shakerator with a kuhn powerharrow hung on the back! It works well for us, we tried a discerator a couple of years back thinking it might be easier to lift and pull, it was just as hard to lift and not a patch on the finish you get with our rig!
We're normally working at around 8"-10" and covering upto 70ac a day.

That's not subsoiling in my world , 18 inches more like

 

[Alistair Nelson]

This must be the oldest resurrection but does any body mount a power harrow combi on the back of a low disturbance toolbar with tank on front of tractor

Give Dean at Agriweld a ring and talk to him about the ASL it is exactly what your describing

ASL - Agriweld

ASL The ASL low disturbance toolbar allows for a one-pass system 3-6m Available Width 6 - 12 Legs 200+ Horsepower 300mm Max Working Depth As Easy as ASL The ASL Low Disturbance Toolbar. Designed to run in conjunction with a mounted combination drill, or trailed drills/cultivators creating a...

agriweld.co.uk

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Either get a dutzi (spelling?) and a tractor big enough to pull it or a Bramleys tool bar

 

[Dman2]

Give Dean at Agriweld a ring and talk to him about the ASL it is exactly what your describing

ASL - Agriweld

ASL The ASL low disturbance toolbar allows for a one-pass system 3-6m Available Width 6 - 12 Legs 200+ Horsepower 300mm Max Working Depth As Easy as ASL The ASL Low Disturbance Toolbar. Designed to run in conjunction with a mounted combination drill, or trailed drills/cultivators creating a...

agriweld.co.uk

That pushes the drill a lot further back than a Bramleys does
Gonna take some lifting

 

[Alistair Nelson]

It does but it is hyd reset to clear stones without clashing with the rotors and also has more legs for lower surface disturbance whilst moving all the soil underneath if that makes sense and stagger between the legs for trash clearance.

and no I don’t sell them but we store some of there gear on the farm and they use us for development etc. Have a chat to Dean he’ll explain it better

as mentioned above had many an hour on a dutzi hell of a machine could destroy tractors and they had no form of break back on the legs at all you either stopped or it jumped or something broke!!