Used Thiopron on sugar beet last year with good results. Anybody use it on cereals? Vertipin been used in Europe and has approval here this year, anybody had any experience of it? Could we use these sulphur products instead of multisite fungicides like Folpet?
Sulphur fungicides
- Thread starter Laggard
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Yes, applied the Thiopron 3.75l/ha with Escolta and Copper 1l/ha. Very pleased, highest ever yield here.
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Interesting, sulphur is a blast from the past that dad was using 30 odd years ago.
In my opinion the new old azole for beet is next door to useless so maybe sulphur is the way to go.
Anyone used Vertipin or Thiopron in Wheat?
or Iodus?
or Iodus?
we tried iodus last year, there was very little septoria pressure early doors so hard to tell if it was any use or not
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
If i recall it wasn’t much of a fungicide 30 years ago when the brand name was Thiovit. Maybe like a fine wine it has matured well in the intervening period.
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
It's probably still isn't much good but neither is anything else we're left with so it may not be as noticably crap as it was.
Bogweevil
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Sulphur very good on powdery mildews, much used on fruit and grape vines worldwide. Most organic apples will have had a surprisingly large number of sulphur applications (though organic growers like to play that down). Used on barley and peas quite widely in olden days - 1970s I believe.
Moderate effect on some other diseases - early researchers on intensive wheat production used repeated sulphur doses but once Azoles appeared the sulphur use dropped.
Research suggests that sulphur will help slow build up of resistance to more targeted fungicides in the same way as other multi-site protectant fungicides. As well as direct toxicity sulphur elicits phytoalexins in crops -a substance that is produced by plant tissues that inhibits the growth of pathogens.
And you get the fertiliser effect so a saving in AS. Sulphur deficiency s the commonest nutrient related disorder in Europe after all.
On the downside air pollution from sulphur dioxide, damaging to lungs, reported in California in residential areas near treated orchards and vineyards, so not entirely safe.
Moderate effect on some other diseases - early researchers on intensive wheat production used repeated sulphur doses but once Azoles appeared the sulphur use dropped.
Research suggests that sulphur will help slow build up of resistance to more targeted fungicides in the same way as other multi-site protectant fungicides. As well as direct toxicity sulphur elicits phytoalexins in crops -a substance that is produced by plant tissues that inhibits the growth of pathogens.
And you get the fertiliser effect so a saving in AS. Sulphur deficiency s the commonest nutrient related disorder in Europe after all.
On the downside air pollution from sulphur dioxide, damaging to lungs, reported in California in residential areas near treated orchards and vineyards, so not entirely safe.
How do does everyone who used Thiopron get on with applying it? I was forever blocking full sets of nozzles, particularly frustrating when getting a tank full on before starting combining for the day 
- Location
- S E Glos
It's about half as effective as folpet. Make of that what you will.
Though the thing with Thiovit was it went on so thick it virtually rendered the plants so no fungal spore could get through.
i think flop it has been under appreciated (including by me) in the pastIt's about half as effective as folpet. Make of that what you will.
Though the thing with Thiovit was it went on so thick it virtually rendered the plants so no fungal spore could get through.
yellow belly
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- Location
- south west lincolnshire
Septoria was not a big problem when sulphur dioxide was in the acid rain
this also reduced the moss on roof sheets
